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  2. Posted

    1 minute ago, PK90 said:

    Hmmm. As a seller, if the buyer was satisfied with the firearm, I would insist on the payment first, then turn the firearm over to the dealer. No need for me to hang out.

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    Ya I agree in theory, but I'd kinda feel weird just bouncing. I guess technically I could've left if I was in a mad rush, but I just felt that I should stick around until everything was sorted out. I don't disagree with you. I just wanted to be as courteous as possible. This is a new process so it's not really clear what the etiquette is...

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    2 hours ago, PK90 said:

    When did the buyer hand you the money for the purchase, and why did you stay 45 minutes?  

     

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    Just waiting for them to finish up with other customers, filling out all the paperwork, ringing us up for the transfer, entering NICS info, waiting on NICS to get back... all in all took like 40-45 min. We left as soon as they were done. What else can I say....

    Buyer paid transfer fee to gun shop when they asked, then paid me once he got his pink copy of the completed P2P.

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    Here's an update as promised: just sold a handgun in a "private" sale at an FFL (Bergen Sporting Goods). It took about 45 min (as opposed to just 5 min it used to take...) Thankfully, NICS was instant.

    The store input the handgun to their books and then did a normal transfer to the buyer. Buyer paid the transfer and NICS fee.

    They gave me a store receipt with the gun info and serial number (as opposed to the blue copy of the P2P I used to get as seller.) This serves as my proof that I sold it.

    Definitely a much more inconvenient process than before. We had to meet far from both of our homes, while the store was still open. This went relatively smoothly, but obviously that's because NICS wasn't backlogged.

    I guess I fared about as well as I could've.

  5. Posted

    On 10/21/2018 at 9:51 PM, PK90 said:

    Staying with the topic of this thread, a thought crossed my mind. An 18 year old can no longer acquire a receiver or pistol grip firearm F2F in NJ as they did legally prior to the law. The dealer can not run a NICS check on them. Oops.

     

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    One of the numerous side effects of this BS.

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    3 minutes ago, Screwball said:

    For stuff like that, I never would tie someone up like that. Back when I got my S&W 1006, I purchased it from the seller, and it sat at SS until the permits came back.

    I also had one of the moderators on BerettaForum, who I consider a friend, that I purchased two handguns from (Beretta PX4 and SIG P228). He lives outside of Orlando. I paid, and he held the pistols until the permits came back.

    Is that a normal situation? No (someone I actually trust), but kind of a hard situation to deal with if you are waiting on permits. Usually better to not look until you waited a month after submitting.

    Well the buyer was upfront immediately about submitting his app for PTPs that day. I didn’t exactly seek him out. I mentioned to my FFL that I was thinking of selling my VP9 Tactical and that day he referred me to this guy who was in the market for one. Just good timing.

    But he understands that if I have a buyer with a permit sooner, I’ll sell to that person.

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    Ok I’m in the early states of facilitating a handgun sale (selling my VP9 Tactical) to another NJer. Once he gets his permits, we’ll prob determine an FFL to meet at and see how it goes. I guess I’ll update as it goes along.

    Although I told him that if I get other offers in the meantime from someone already with a permit, I’ll have to pursue that.

    So much can happen while we wait all those weeks for a PTP. Super frustrating.

  12. Posted · Edited by stuckinNJ

    So if the gun in a FTF isn’t going into the books of the dealer, doesn’t that mean that they’re simply running a NICS? Meaning they should only be charging the $15 for it, and not a transfer fee since it’s not a transfer?

     

    Edit: it seems based on that guidance posted by @PK90 that it does, in fact, enter the FFLs books, so I assume it’s considered an actual transfer. Damn.

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    5 hours ago, myhatinthering said:

    Great post and I have to agree for the most part. For me however I refuse to pay the transfer fees if I see somebody posting to sell something and then I decide to buy it. My reasoning is that they are looking to sell it I didn't ask them specifically for it, I didn't put a wanted to buy add up. If you are looking to sell you better factor in those transfer cost in your price. Then again, I find I buy very little in New Jersey because people seem to have an inflated value of what they have and always include the nics in the price. Kind of an interesting studying seller Behavior to be honest

    I also guarantee that quite a few people are not going to use or abide by the new law. Imagine having done business with somebody for years upon years or family or close friends and now all of a sudden the two of you are expected to go through an FFL?   unless you are buying anything serialized after the date it is virtually impossible for anyone to determine when you sold it to them because you could say I sold it prior to that date.

    I don't see how it'd be possible to avoid the new law when the COE now demands a NICS #. Private handgun sales will certainly no longer work since the form is sent to NJSP.

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    13 minutes ago, RecessedFilter said:

    I don't see transfer costs changing. It's still time and paperwork to be filled out so I'm not sure why people expect it to be less.

    Who pays the fees will probably depend on each individual transaction and how both seller and buyer work it out. I think splitting it 50/50 is fair but I think a lot of people will expect the buyer to eat the costs. I think it'll also depend on how the item is priced and if it's a good deal.

    There's no doubt this law will be doing exactly what its intention is - decreasing ftf sales. Variables such as transfer fees, NICS checks and the slow system we have will cause tons of problems, as well as having to plan what FFL and where to meet up will all have a major effect on gun sales.

    Totally agree. It was difficult enough to find a time when 2 parties could meet for a ftf. Now its gonna need to be at an FFL, during opening hours, when both ppl can meet and after a NICS check is done bc we all know how often it gets backlogged. And then what happens if the buyer sees the gun in hand then decides he's not interested? Who pays the NICS then? And then maybe that will deter buyers from doing a NICS in advance leading back to the orig problem of a NICS backlog!!!! Then what happens if a NICS is done on the spot and its backed up for days?!!!

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    1 minute ago, PK90 said:

    So the thread shows a star in my unread posts. Are you a newbie? LOL

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    Ohhh lol not I'm not new, but I've become so paranoid about sarcastic remarks that I thought it was some way of saying this was a stupid question/covered already or something. Or I thought you were asking me to add tags to the post... IDK total brain fart.

  17. Posted

    Just now, 67gtonut said:

    FTF sales now require a Background Check....

    So yes, you need to go to the FFL of your choice and ask what he charges....

    As far as charges ...... thats between you and buyer/seller how you want to handle the cost... 

    Thanks. I searched around and didn't see anything here, and the marketplace postings didn't seem to mention anything either. 

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    One piece of advice, DO NOT reveal that you're paying in full up front (ie not financing). Try to get the absolute lowest price (they'll assume you'll finance. If they ask during negotiations how you're paying, avoid answering. Say "I'm not sure yet" or "it depends"). Once they offer a decent price, ask for less and say you'll pay all right now.

    When they see the $ right in front of them, they should agree. I've done this a few times when helping my siblings purchase vehicles (I lease).

    Good luck and remember: Be prepared to walk. If you're not, they've already won!

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    58 minutes ago, JR88USMC said:

    it's obnoxious. When I first got my FID in 2015 I should have gotten a P2P with that one, at the time all I wanted was an AR. Lesson learned when I moved last year and applied for my change of address, I put in for 1 P2P. ended up buying the 229 because of how much of a pain it is to get a handgun here it's a do everything gun.

    I get 4 P2Ps at a time. They’re just $2 each and it gives flexibility over a 6 month (with extension) period to get what I want.

    Of course the only issue is that I end up using them all bc they’re so annoying to get. My wallet isn’t too pleased lol. So far on my last batch, I got a VP9, CZ 75 Pre B and last week a CZ P-07. Now I have to figure out what to get with the 4th...

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