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  1. Great article. This is why we use 1:9 as the standard twist on our 5.56 guns. Our 1:9 barrel will out shoot a 1:7 using the same 55 gr ammo. Yes, our 1:7 will out shoot the 1:9 when using 77gr but we have found most people aren't into shooting $1 a round ammo in their AR's. Also keep in mind that optimum performance does not come from Federal XM193. The best performance in the 1:9 barrel was found to be Hornady 55gr V-Max
  2. We had that question with NJ and it seemed irrelevant since the adjustable brace fully collapsed is pretty much even with the end of the buffer tube.
  3. So this change only applies to non-NFA firearms and any other weapons. The issue is people who have what was a non-NFA firearm with a folding brace now may have an AOW because it is under 26” folded which would make it an NFA item requiring a tax stamp. This does not apply to pistols (no front grip).
  4. Some breaking news on ATF length measurements Looks like ATF is measuring folded / collapsed / removed now https://blog.princelaw.com/2019/07/05/atf-rescinds-prior-methods-to-measure-a-firearms-overall-length-when-equipped-with-a-stabilizing-brace/
  5. Yes folding brace. But the ATF says every item evaluated stands on its own and they are known for issuing conflicting decisions. They are also no longer issuing letters on parts or accessories, only complete firearms for exactly this reason. Don’t get me wrong. I an all about pushing the limits but you need to be prepared to fight the fight if it comes to it and most individuals are not. If there is enough demand for a folding version, I am sure us, or another manufacturer will go through the process to get a determination on one.
  6. This is where it gets risky. As far as I know the ATF has never issued a determination on a non-NFA firearm that has a folding stock so you would be in uncharted territory even federally. As an FFL we have a process with ATF to get a legal determination made by them. The process involves us sending then a firearm to evaluate and takes 6-12 months. We also have the benefit of having an SOT (tax stamp for NFA weapons) that covers everything we own so if they decide something is an SBR it does not matter. This does not work for individuals building their own. So if you build your own, especially outside of the approved formula, you do so at your own peril.
  7. Good question as to what a 1919 would be? It is not designed to be shouldered. I wonder if there is a ATF determination letter for it. It's not designed to be shouldered so it would not be a rifle. Is it a pistol? That would be crazy if it is.
  8. Got it. The one "feature" is the mag outside of the pistol grip. Weight it under, no "shroud", non-threaded or pin/weld comp.
  9. My understanding is no, but that is really not our direct area. We work with them about what directly impacts our manufacturing of complete firearms. Hopefully there will be some clarification in the letter to dealers as I know this is a definite point of concern for a lot of people. I can tell you there are a lot of nuisances with this type of gun and a small mis-step can have you facing a 10 year federal felony so even in free states, you need to tread carefully.
  10. @PK90 if you are an FFL in New Jersey, it is my understanding you will be receiving a letter from NJSP clarifying a lot of these questions. That should take place in the next few weeks from what I have been told. The last few months have been just working with the manufacturers to get all of the details worked out on their (our) side.
  11. Here is the exact language from NJSP... "Firearm must have an overall length of more then 26 inches with the pistol brace collapsed." Per the ATF determination letter, the guns are classified as "firearm non-NFA". If you log them in and out as anything else, you may be subject to violations during an ATF audit. A copy of the ATF determination letter is attached as addendum to the NJSP/NJAG letter. If you are referring to 26 USC 5845a, for the 26" length, that refers to the modification of a rifle of shotgun to have a length less than 26". It does not refer to a weapon that was not originally built as a rifle or shotgun which is the case for these guns, as well as the Mossberg shockwave and 500 cruiser pistol grip.
  12. Yes, and it has been posted numerous times already. NJSP measures with the brace collapsed. ATF measures extended. Don't ask me why, it does not make sense. The new guns we are discussing are NOT "pistol grip firearms" , they are "non-NFA firearms". It is a different classification. Federal regulation limits this classification to a minimum length of 26". There is no federal law that limits the overall length of rifles of shotguns. Federal law separates whether rifles are shotguns are "short barrel" or not by barrel length, not by overall length.
  13. The guns we are primarily discussing on this thread are NOT pistols, they are non-NFA firearms. As far as I know, the only AR pistols legal in NJ are our DSI fixed mag and (probably) the Franklin Armory bolt action (not semi-auto) one they make for California. Any AR pistol that is semi-auto with a detachable magazine would be an assault weapon in NJ because the magazine is not in the pistol grip (and it is likely over the 50 ounce weight limit).
  14. The NJSP letter about the Dark Storm Industries and Troy Industries "firearm non-NFA" configurations is what is new. Our fixed mag pistols and rifles have always been legal in NJ. "Standard" AR and AK pistols are NOT legal. With the ejection port speed loaders we sell you can reload as fast as a mag change. Video demo is on a rifle, but the same process applies to the pistol.
  15. We do manufacture fixed mag DS-15 pistols that are legal in New Jersey. The weight limit does not apply since the magazine is not detachable.
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