Downtownv 1,773 Posted December 22, 2020 WHAT SAY YE? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted December 22, 2020 Where's that from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redeye65 161 Posted December 22, 2020 That is my understanding of the law. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted December 22, 2020 Check the Public Disinformation Division of the NJ State Police: https://www.njsp.org/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml Item #8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,773 Posted December 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: Where's that from? printed at the bottom of a permit to purchase form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted December 22, 2020 what's different? looks exactly the same to me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted December 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Indianajonze said: what's different? looks exactly the same to me It's misleading if you currently have a FPID. With an FPID, possession of a long gun is legal ANYWHERE unless prohibited by law(like school grounds). That means you could throw an unloaded bare rifle on your front seat and be legal. Since Pistols are illegal to possess in NJ, you have to follow New Jersey Statutes 2C:39-6. Exemptions in order to be in "compliance" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 242 Posted December 22, 2020 The njsp would probably come across as being slightly helpful by adding "hand gun" and keeping the FPID in context. I like things simple....or as simple as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted December 22, 2020 Old news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 548 Posted December 22, 2020 The FPID is a permit to purchase AND CARRY rifles and shotguns. They want you to forget about the carry part so they removed those words from the card. Fuck them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,916 Posted December 22, 2020 Quote 2C:39-5. Unlawful possession of weapons. ... c. Rifles and shotguns. (1) Any person who knowingly has in his possession any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a firearms purchaser identification card in accordance with the provisions of N.J.S.2C:58-3, is guilty of a crime of the third degree. (2) Unless otherwise permitted by law, any person who knowingly has in his possession any loaded rifle or shotgun is guilty of a crime of the third degree. It allows you to carry unloaded rifles and shotguns. Don't forget a non-NFA 'Other' is neither a rifle nor a shotgun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted December 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said: It allows you to carry unloaded rifles and shotguns. Don't forget a non-NFA 'Other' is neither a rifle nor a shotgun. Correct, you dont even need an FPID to carry an other since they aren't prohibited like handguns are, or restricted to a fpid like long guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,916 Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JackDaWack said: Correct, you done even need an FPID to carry an other since they aren't prohibited like handguns are, or restricted to a fpid like long guns. Only if you have a manifestly appropriate lawful use for it at the time. Self defense is not deemed a lawful use in NJ. Quote 2C:39-5. Unlawful possession of weapons. ... d. Other weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any other weapon under circumstances not manifestly appropriate for such lawful uses as it may have is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said: Only if you have a manifestly appropriate lawful use for it at the time. Self defense is not deemed a lawful use in NJ. Paper weight works for me. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted December 23, 2020 ... because I can't find the dead horse emoji. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted December 23, 2020 8 hours ago, PK90 said: ... because I can't find the dead horse emoji. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted January 31, 2021 I've seen this before but gone to actual statutes to determine what I can and can't do. There is a statute with the wording of the top line though. The part I find interesting is where it says "securely tied package". I don't know what the courts would say (actually I do), but I think if you made that statement to any rational person (or even a liberal and didn't tell them what it was in regard to) and asked them if wrapped in brown paper with twine around it satisfied "securely tied package", they'd say G2G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leahcim 678 Posted February 1, 2021 On 12/22/2020 at 3:54 PM, Mr.Stu said: Only if you have a manifestly appropriate lawful use for it at the time. Self defense is not deemed a lawful use in NJ. So, in theory, I could sling two unloaded ARs (one over each shoulder) and walk to the range on public thoroughfares? I'm going to the range to legally practice. As long as I have an FPID? Or might I be cited and arrested for disturbing the peace? And are you saying no FPID is required for a non-NFA firearm like Dark Storm)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,916 Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, leahcim said: So, in theory, I could sling two unloaded ARs (one over each shoulder) and walk to the range? I'm going to the range to legally practice. As long as I have an FPID? You can do that and you don't need to be going to the range if you have your FPIC. You are breaking no firearms law. Just stay away from prohibited places such as schools and post offices. 1 minute ago, leahcim said: Or might I be cited and arrested for disturbing the peace? You might, Rabbit. You might. 1 minute ago, leahcim said: And are you saying no FPID is required for a non-NFA firearm like Dark Storm)? I'm saying your FPIC doesn't help you with your non-NFA other firearm because it is not a rifle or a shotgun. Similarly, your FPIC doesn't help you with a handgun for the same reason. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bt Doctur 188 Posted March 2, 2021 I guess then were all guilty of picking up a shotgun ,no serial number, from a cardboard barrel from R & S Auto Stores back in the 60`s or Sears & Robuck ???????????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 956 Posted March 2, 2021 On 12/23/2020 at 9:18 AM, PK90 said: ... because I can't find the dead horse emoji. Hope this helps Paul? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites