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12 hours ago, Golf battery said:

So.  The other day im walking in s jersey.  On a trail. Mountain lion pops up outta nowhere.  Pull my pistol out.  Round gets stuck.  So i throw my pistol at him.  All good now.  Two birds with one stone is the moral of this story :facepalm::deadhorse::D

OK, Sean!

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On 2/16/2021 at 12:37 PM, Malice4you said:

Who could forget that amazing gift to all of us?

Exactly JCPG, forever in our hearts.  

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Here's the Text from August of 2012 in case anyone is curious as to the Origins of "Just throw it over the wall when you malf"

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Posted Today, 08:14 PM

Im saddened to report my most recent WWB failures. This ones a doozy. Actually it's a doozy X 3. Before i start i know there is no way anyone can approve of the way we've handled this, but it ended in good light no one got hurt and all firearms are now safe and back in working order.

 

To start we purchased approximately 900 or so rounds of WWB from 1 day at Walmart Easton PA. We headed off to EFGA in Easton to start our pistol shoot.

 

Pistol # 1 Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm fullsize. The last WWB was shot and another was cycled through the chamber. The shooter struck the primer and the round was still in the chamber. The slide seized. We could not rack the slide no matter what amount of force. We used the side of the range port to rack the slide using the sights. Nothing, not a budge. We used a small cleaning rod that was very solid as a dowel to remove the stuck round, but still nothing. Finally one of my very experienced friends came to the suggestion of throwing the pistol from the pistol range to the 22 range immediately adjacent to us.

 

*****YES THAT'S RIGHT. THROW A PISTOL W/ A LIVE ROUND IN THE CHAMBER OVER TO THE NEXT 22 RANGE NEXT TO US.****

 

I know, i know... I was thinking the same thing... CRAZY...I mean it's not my pistol, but still. Every second someone held that gun we felt it was going to blow up in our hands. The problem was the fact that the slide was closed shut. The rim of the round was wedged right on the thickest part of the extractor. The tension between the round pushing up on the extractor was too powerful for anyone to tap rack and cough no bang. We feared the worst. The round might still go off w/ the stuck casing leaving no recoil management and the gun would either point in the opposite direction or simply explode. Every action has a reaction and without a functioning slide that reaction was our greatest fear. Not to mention the striker was very much pushing up on the primer. So back to the throwing pistol deal.

 

We first had a 2 man team scout the next range over. We signaled clear for one of us to lob the pistol over in a convenient bubble wrap bag over to the next range. This was in hopes that the impact would somehow loosen the tension between the extractor and the rim of the casing. There was a foot thick concrete barrier between our range and the next range over. If this thing were to go off we'd prefer it to be elsewhere. We repeated 2 or 3 times till succession.

 

 

Woohoo! Day saved. Thanks to my genius friend w/ an amazing tact for solving life's greatest puzzles.

 

WRONG...To make my friend happy because he felt his M&P had somehow malfunctioned and was not up to par i let him shoot my Brand new 1st day out Walther PPQ 9MM

 

Pistol #2 Walther PPQ 9mm second edition..1st day of shooting it. Less than 50 rounds through the pipe. Same as M&P except i was crying cause it was mine and i managed to take down the slide for a closer evaluation. Genius Walther design BTW. The take down tabs allow us to remove the slide safely while the slide was seized. We proceeded to throw the slide w/ the live round at the next range. No luck. Decided to put the pistol back together to add extra heft and after 3 or 4 chucks that Gun is saved.

 

Phew that was close. We should leave now right? LOL...WRONG!

 

 

Pistol #3 Springfield XD not M, but 5 inch tactical length XD9. After nearly an hour of dealing w/ 2 pistols having similar issues we assumed it was secluded to only 1 of the boxes of WWB because both the M&P and PPQ were shot at the same port using the same box of WWB.

 

The last shooter started laughing 3 ports over and said "I was such a douche that still kept shooting despite seeing this happen on 2 other pistols.". We knew what to do already. Time to chuck it. With the internal extractor the XD was actually the hardest to fix. We must've thrown that gun maybe 15 times to get that slide loose.

 

I know what you are all thinking. WTF? 3 TIMES! Yes i know. I'm thinking that too. I'd honestly start a flame right now if someone else posted this, but seriously. This was a very serious situation. Each pistol had a live round w/ the striker still pressing on that primmer. At any given time we held this gun it was 1 stroke away from having a negligent discharge. We refused to drive knowing this isn't a safe transport. We asked multiple EFGA member for assistance, but none of them were qualified for this. I'm not justifying us throwing 3 guns around like this, but i just wanted everyone to be aware of the Winchester QA,QC. I know. Yes i agree. I too have shot thousands of WWB so have all of us, but if you are deciding to take a drive down to Easton PA and considering getting it from the same lot I'd advise you not to. Hopefully if this happens to you it wouldn't take you 3 pistols to realize it's time to call it quits. We ended the day shooting a 100 yard gong w/ my cousins DPMS recon. Love that rifle sweet heavy bull barrel and shoots accurately while hot. Oh the 5.56 was federal champion BTW =)

 

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9 hours ago, Malsua said:

Exactly JCPG, forever in our hearts.  

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Here's the Text from August of 2012 in case anyone is curious as to the Origins of "Just throw it over the wall when you malf"

 

One day I'm gonna make this joke in front of people that have no idea what I'm talking about, and as I laugh they will look upon me as a total moron/jackass.. 

And It will still be worth it. 

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3 hours ago, gleninjersey said:

That story NEVER gets old.

Took me a minute to figure out WWB.  Winchester White Box.  It USED to be cheap range ammo.  Probably $50 a box now.

What does JCPG stand for?  

That was the guy's username.  Probably "Jersey City Pistol Gunner" or maybe "Just Circumvent Pistol Guidelines"

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On 2/18/2021 at 8:57 PM, JackDaWack said:

One day I'm gonna make this joke in front of people that have no idea what I'm talking about, and as I laugh they will look upon me as a total moron/jackass.. 

And It will still be worth it. 

I saved it as a .pdf to preserve for future generations of shooters. 

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