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Premier Biden is coming! Joe Biden issues statement on action for Gun Control on Parkland anniversary!

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1 hour ago, CMJeepster said:

And along with Merrick Garland as A.G., wanna take a guess what happens next:

...."But the truth is simple. Second Amendment issues have come before Garland, at least four times. He voted anti-gun every time."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/05/01/merrick-garland-guns-supreme-court-second-amendment-column/83670044/

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35 minutes ago, Grapeshot said:

In the 18th century, "well regulated" meant well-trained, and working with precision. I am so tired of people interpreting this "carte-blanche" to enact new laws. That was not at all what the founders meant, and anyone with an even rudimentary understanding of 18th century terminology should know that. 

Yep! This is a HUGE misunderstanding today. Think of it as, "A well-regulated clock keeps the most accurate time". That definition of the word, in fact, is the reason that the most accurate type of pendulum clocks at the time came to be called "Regulators"... because they were, in fact, in good working order and thus "well-regulated".  

I laugh/cringe when I see people think it means "regulations" in a legal/paper-sense. I mean think about it - it doesn't even make common sense! Look at the length of the founding documents - they were incredibly short. At that time, this current level of regulatory madness wasn't even a thing. If the Founders were reincarnated today, their mouths would be agape to learn that a single bill is often hundreds of pages long, if not over 1,000 pages. That is entirely a development of modern times. 

 

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38 minutes ago, Grapeshot said:

In the 18th century, "well regulated" meant well-trained, and working with precision. I am so tired of people interpreting this "carte-blanche" to enact new laws. That was not at all what the founders meant, and anyone with an even rudimentary understanding of 18th century terminology should know that. 

and keep meant to carry on their person, and bear meant to use if necessary.

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4 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

and keep meant to carry on their person, and bear meant to use if necessary.

Why is this even debated?  Scalia defined “well regulated”, bare, and arms in Heller.  Even his oft-misquoted “not absolute” only referred to very specific instances, none of which referred to the components of the firearm.  

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52 minutes ago, voyager9 said:

Why is this even debated?  Scalia defined “well regulated”, bare, and arms in Heller.  Even his oft-misquoted “not absolute” only referred to very specific instances, none of which referred to the components of the firearm.  

it's debated because those we rely on to lobby for our rights keep farking bargaining them away.

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I feel like I'm a frog in water pot that is slowly being boiled. I know we have been down this road many times before with previous administrations(all democrats), but I keep getting this nagging feeling that this time is different. Yes, I know that due to leftist violence in predominantly progressive run cities over the summer, many people have woken up and purchased guns for the first time bolstering our ranks but, I feel this sense of "finality" with the way things are going. The type of rhetoric and misinformation coming from the current administration, media, academia, and younger generation is something that would have been unheard in the 80's or 90's. As gun owners we may have to re-think our "philosophy of use" regarding our lawfully purchased guns. Will leaving a gun in a gun vault to collect dust and praying that SCOTUS steps in to re-affirm the 2nd going to cut it for much longer? At this point, these progressive governors and mayors are totally ignoring the Heller and Mcdonald decisions and passing ever increasing regulations. Are we all frogs in a pot?

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History does not repeat itself exactly, but it does rhyme. Watch "The World At War - A New Germany" and see if you recognize anything that rhymes with today.

"The German-Jewish poet Heine, whose books now went into the flames, had once written: "Where one burns books...there, one eventually burns people.""

 

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What the hell is the AFT?  And how much  money is in the "Infastructure" spending spree for Democrat Gun Control?

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1 hour ago, Underdog said:

What the hell is the AFT?  And how much  money is in the "Infastructure" spending spree for Democrat Gun Control?

American Federation of Teachers. See what he did there?

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/23/clinton-obama-official-biden-could-get-gun-control-through-congress-by-reframing-the-issue-as-a-national-security-imperative/

 

they will stop at nothing,   maybe they will eventually piss off john roberts enough to make him vote the right way

 

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2 hours ago, CMJeepster said:

At least Swalwell said the same antagonistic comment with some emotion and pride, but Joe's dementia is only going to get worse.

Joe also probably forgot what he said about insurrection and uprising in his State of the Union speech already.  He seemed so worried about it a mere few months ago!

 

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And I'm pretty sure that back in the day cannons were legal, just on the expensive side.  I will have to check on this but I am pretty sure some of the signers of the Declaration of Independence purchased some for the continential army, without a background check!  ;-)

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13 minutes ago, father-of-three said:

And I'm pretty sure that back in the day cannons were legal, just on the expensive side.  I will have to check on this but I am pretty sure some of the signers of the Declaration of Independence purchased some for the continential army, without a background check!  ;-)

We rented warships from private citizens. he's beyond wrong on that part. 

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-overlooks-gunless-crime-white-220200790.html

"The gun lobby wants you to believe that cities that have the toughest gun laws still have the highest rates of gun violence. Don't believe it," he said. "We’re taking on the bad actors doing bad things to our communities."

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5 hours ago, CMJeepster said:

So, by "you need F-15s and... Nukes" is Biden saying that he believes F-15s and nukes are covered under 2A?

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