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So, help me understand here. Does this mean the SCOTUS wouldn't even consider the case, and just punted it back to the 5th Circuit?

......"BELLEVUE, WA – The U.S. Supreme Court has denied a petition for certiorari from New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal in his effort to escape the jurisdiction of the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the ongoing First Amendment case brought by Defense Distributed and the Second Amendment Foundation.

The Fifth Circuit had ruled unanimously that Grewal, because of his efforts to prevent distribution of materials related to the 3D printing of firearms, was subject to the jurisdiction of the Texas courts. Defense Distributed is headquartered in Texas."

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42 minutes ago, Sniper said:

So, help me understand here. Does this mean the SCOTUS wouldn't even consider the case, and just punted it back to the 5th Circuit?

Certainly what it sounds like.  Scotus denied to hear the case so it falls back on the 5th circuit decision. 

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44 minutes ago, Sniper said:

So, help me understand here. Does this mean the SCOTUS wouldn't even consider the case, and just punted it back to the 5th Circuit?

......"BELLEVUE, WA – The U.S. Supreme Court has denied a petition for certiorari from New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal in his effort to escape the jurisdiction of the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the ongoing First Amendment case brought by Defense Distributed and the Second Amendment Foundation.

The Fifth Circuit had ruled unanimously that Grewal, because of his efforts to prevent distribution of materials related to the 3D printing of firearms, was subject to the jurisdiction of the Texas courts. Defense Distributed is headquartered in Texas."

No . . . The SCOTUS decision was about jurisdiction not the facts of the case.  Grewal didn't want to have to defend his action in the 5th Circuit (Texas).  He claimed that they didn't have jurisdiction.  SCOTUS disagreed.

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Defense Distributed sued Grewal in TX.

TX court ruled no jurisdiction over NJ AG.

Defense Distributed appealed to 5th Circuit.

5th Circuit disagreed with lower court, said yes, Grewal can be sued in TX, remanded to lower court for trial.

Grewal appealed 5th circuit decision to SCOTUS.

SCOTUS denied cert.  5th circuit decision stands.  Trial will proceed in TX, where I'm sure Grewal's attorneys will be warmly received for putting the screws to a Texas company.

Somehow I don't think we'll be getting a tweet about this on the official NJ OAG twitter account.

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2 minutes ago, Bklynracer said:

Question. does this helps us? how?

I think it does.  But don’t hold your breath.   NJ wanted the lawsuit against them by DD dismissed.  SCOTUS just said no.  So now NJ has to defend its actions against DD in a Texas court.  
The alternative is that the lawsuit is dismissed and NJ AG is Emboldened to try this shit everywhere else.  

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On 3/29/2021 at 8:30 PM, Bklynracer said:

Question. does this helps us? how?

I'd say the answer is no. It would (if the lower court finds in their favor) allow DD to to send material to NJ.

But (if they have not already) NJ would make possession in NJ illegal, and open up a whole new legal fight. Due to the fact DD's case will be settled in Texas State court not Federal court it will set no precedence in NJ on any issue what so ever  

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On 3/29/2021 at 4:49 PM, Sniper said:

So, help me understand here. Does this mean the SCOTUS wouldn't even consider the case, and just punted it back to the 5th Circuit?

......"BELLEVUE, WA – The U.S. Supreme Court has denied a petition for certiorari from New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal in his effort to escape the jurisdiction of the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the ongoing First Amendment case brought by Defense Distributed and the Second Amendment Foundation.

The Fifth Circuit had ruled unanimously that Grewal, because of his efforts to prevent distribution of materials related to the 3D printing of firearms, was subject to the jurisdiction of the Texas courts. Defense Distributed is headquartered in Texas."

Grewal said he had jurisdiction to enforce NJ laws in other states because internet. He tried to do so. Then he got NJ sued in Texas because that is where DD is located. Then Grewal said nuh-uh we are in NJ, you can't sue us any place but NJ. Which was stupid, because such reasoning never has and never will be true, especially when one of the parties to the suit is located in said state. Then he put on his shocked and dismayed face when the mean old SCOTUS reminded him of this. 

This wasn't about Grewal trying to get a dismissal. The case proper over the statute and DD's actions is still pending. 

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1 hour ago, raz-0 said:

Grewal said he had jurisdiction to enforce NJ laws in other states because internet. He tried to do so. Then he got NJ sued in Texas because that is where DD is located. Then Grewal said nuh-uh we are in NJ, you can't sue us any place but NJ. Which was stupid, because such reasoning never has and never will be true, especially when one of the parties to the suit is located in said state. Then he put on his shocked and dismayed face when the mean old SCOTUS reminded him of this. 

This.  While not immediately “good” for us, had he prevailed then the floodgates would have been open to sue out of state companies without fear of counter-suits. 

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