Supreme Court Takes First 2A Case in a Decade

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Did you know Kavanaugh greenlit government gun registration?

Your Gun Is None of the Government’s Business - LewRockwell.com

[Displaced Texan 11,731]

Colorado judge issues TRO on mag/gun ban in Colorado city. 
 

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/07/22/colorado-u-s-district-court-issues-tro-against-magazine-and-gun-ban/

 

I think this is a VERY good sign of things to come. 

 

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On 7/24/2022 at 7:21 AM, CMJeepster said:

RI fucking around with the ruling:  Opinion/Calenda: Attorney General Neronha’s misguidance on concealed carry (yahoo.com)

The RI AG is ultimately going to lose. Bruen clearly paved the way for CCW across the US. 

 

RI is going to get bitch slapped. As long as WE press the issue and fight back. 

[CMJeepster 2,777]

I found this article to be very informative and it asked questions that I hadn't thought about before: Your gun is none of the government's business | Napolitano (yahoo.com)

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40 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

I found this article to be very informative and it asked questions that I hadn't thought about before: Your gun is none of the government's business | Napolitano (yahoo.com)

Yes, that first appeared in the NJ Herald. Napolitano lives in Sussex County.

[CMJeepster 2,777]

Supreme Court's landmark guns ruling prompts race to test Second Amendment's limits (yahoo.com)

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NYPD adopts new concealed carry permit license rule after Supreme Court ruling (yahoo.com)

"Applicants will have to include four character references and a list of social media accounts they have used in the last three years. They will also have to sit for an in-person interview and undergo a firearms safety course."

[CJack 138]

Do they collect social media accounts for last three years of NYPD cops ?  How about interviewing NYPD  families every year to ensure no one is beating their wives ?

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55 minutes ago, CJack said:

Do they collect social media accounts for last three years of NYPD cops ?  How about interviewing NYPD  families every year to ensure no one is beating their wives ?

You should go into comedy! 

In the past I've said the same thing when schools want to do random student drug testing... yeah, sure, if you also randomly test the staff, which would, of course, never fly.

 

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i'd read that the courts are already on ny for the sensitive area thing......how long will it take them to put the kabosh on this too?

[CMJeepster 2,777]

And here's the delaying tactic in action:  New York to restrict gun carrying after Supreme Court ruling (yahoo.com)

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On 8/26/2022 at 8:29 AM, 1LtCAP said:

i'd read that the courts are already on ny for the sensitive area thing......how long will it take them to put the kabosh on this too?

Courts don't act on their own, someone needs to raise a case.

[CMJeepster 2,777]

Upheld:  Federal judge rules New York can restrict gun carrying (yahoo.com)

[raz-0 1,259]

3 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

Upheld:  Federal judge rules New York can restrict gun carrying (yahoo.com)

Not upheld. The judge basically said most of the law is garbage and would not survive an actual trial. It was dismissed for lack of standing. I don’t know why they didn’t grab a plaintiff with a permit and attach some money damages for making the permit useless. 

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1 minute ago, raz-0 said:

Not upheld. The judge basically said most of the law is garbage and would not survive an actual trial. 

I don't read that at all in this article unless you have another one that has that info?

The lack of standing I can see - I think it's the GOA/GOF jumping in and throwing in a lawsuit right away without vetting a plaintiff.

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6 minutes ago, Krdshrk said:

I don't read that at all in this article unless you have another one that has that info?

The lack of standing I can see - I think it's the GOA/GOF jumping in and throwing in a lawsuit right away without vetting a plaintiff.

From the article:

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The undersigned is left with a strong sense of the safety that a licensed concealed handgun regularly provides, or would provide, to the many law-abiding responsible citizens in the state too powerless to physically defend themselves in public without a handgun,” Suddaby wrote.

He was in favor of the plaintiff’s arguments that the “good character” requirement was based on “vague, subjective criteria.”

The judge also disagreed with the state including a list of locations barring gun owners from carrying in “sensitive” locations, which he said includes places that are “nonsensitive by nature.””

 

 If you read the actual decision, it covers huge swaths of the law calling them incongruent with bruen and not likely to prevail at trial. 

[CMJeepster 2,777]

California fails to replace concealed weapon ruling (yahoo.com)

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https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2022.08.31_order_on_pi_motion_0.pdf

I think this article is clearer in what happened:

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/manhattan/ny-state-of-politics/2022/09/01/new-york-s-gun-law-can-go-forward--but-court-calls-it-unconstitutional

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New York's new concealed carry law, which sets requirements for applying for a license and where guns can be carried, survived an initial court challenge hours before it was set to take effect.

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U.S. District Court Judge Glenn Suddaby denied an injunction against the law taking effect in a Wednesday ruling, essentially determining the defendants in the case, which included the advocacy organization Gun Owners of America, lacked proper standing. 

The decision was initially hailed by state Attorney General Letitia James and Gov. Kathy Hochul. But Suddaby at the same time concluded New York's law -- which includes a range of stipulations for being able to receive a concealed carry license such as a determination of moral standing and character references — was in violation of the Second Amendment. 

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Despite the court's criticism of the law, the measure is in effect starting Thursday. 

 

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The fallout continues:  Battle of Plattsburgh reenactments halted by gun legislation (yahoo.com)

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26 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

The fallout continues:  Battle of Plattsburgh reenactments halted by gun legislation (yahoo.com)

I say let it all hit the fan FAST.  For decades, anti's  been hiding behind "We support 2A, Constitution blah blah blah.." .. may be FUDDs gonna finally wake up.. or not. 

[CMJeepster 2,777]

On 9/9/2022 at 11:35 AM, CJack said:

I say let it all hit the fan FAST.  For decades, anti's  been hiding behind "We support 2A, Constitution blah blah blah.." .. may be FUDDs gonna finally wake up.. or not. 

Another example:  Old Fort Niagara affected by new gun law (yahoo.com)

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U.S. judge temporarily blocks parts of New York's new gun law (yahoo.com)

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mass too just had a setback

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More fallout:  Orthodox Jews sue New York over gun law banning concealed carry in houses of worship (yahoo.com)

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1 hour ago, CMJeepster said:

More fallout:  Orthodox Jews sue New York over gun law banning concealed carry in houses of worship (yahoo.com)

Technically, how can gov tell them they cant have guns? Isn't this a private property, and up to them?

[CMJeepster 2,777]

19 hours ago, Mike77 said:

Technically, how can gov tell them they cant have guns? Isn't this a private property, and up to them?

Sensitive places, bro!

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18 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

Sensitive places, bro!

Says The Government..but don't the churches have the right to protect themselves? Pretty sure there has been church shootings just as much as school shootings. 

[CMJeepster 2,777]

12 minutes ago, Mike77 said:

but don't the churches have the right to protect themselves?

Not in the eyes of the government apparently.

[raz-0 1,259]

2 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

Not in the eyes of the government apparently.

If you read through a lot of NJ law and regulations, you will see very much that first and foremost citizens are considered property of the state. From their perspective the criminal murdering you is just as problematic as you killing that criminal in self defense. You are both damaging their property. You are just as great an evil in their eyes as the murderer. 

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Another Challenge to New York's Gun Law: Sheriffs Who Won't Enforce It (yahoo.com)