sroc112 24 Posted November 28, 2021 Been out of the game for a while friends. Looking at ordering this complete upper. Is this a2 "flash hider" legal in NJ of i get it pinned/welded? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-classic-m4-freedom-upper-with-bcg-and-charging-handle.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted November 28, 2021 The A2 flash hider has to go. Then you need to deal with the muzzle threads: Either get rid of them or cover them with a non-flash-hiding muzzle attachment or thread protector, either of which needs to be permanently attached so that the threads are no longer accessible by the prosecuting attorney and his monkeys. In addition, the entire bayonet lug (not just the ears) has to go. Then it will be NJ compliant (for the moment). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,323 Posted November 29, 2021 They do make a brake that looks exactly like the the A2 bird cage if you want the same look but legal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 29, 2021 Do you have a link for it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 29, 2021 I don’t have a link handy, but Evolution Gun Works makes one that looks just like an A2 flash suppressor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,682 Posted November 29, 2021 https://www.egwguns.com/ar-rifle-parts/ar-compensators/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,323 Posted November 29, 2021 Here's a cheaper one. https://www.aimsportsinc.com/a2-muzzle-brake-5-56-cal/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, silverado427 said: https://www.egwguns.com/ar-rifle-parts/ar-compensators/ Holy crap! $60??!!!!!!! I didn’t know they were that expensive. I have an extended A2 type comp (not EGW) in my parts box, makes a 14.5” carbine 16.25”. If you need it, it’s yours for the cost of postage. It looks like the one on the left in this pic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 29, 2021 So is the only difference that its called a break and not flash hider? What is the actual difference that would be visible to the eye? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 29, 2021 This is what the muzzle end of an A2 flash suppressor looks like. A ‘brake’, or a ‘comp’ has a smaller hole. It’s a stupid law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 29, 2021 How difficult is it to remove the entire bayonet lug? Did not even realize it had one. Also, is it ok for me to order that upper, never attach it to an upper, bring both the upper and lower (detached) to my ffl and have them pin the stock and weld the new brake on? Then be in a legal configuration? Only illegal of the upper and lower are connected with the flash hider? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted November 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, sroc112 said: How difficult is it to remove the entire bayonet lug? Did not even realize it had one. The PSA link you posted in the first post shows a non-compliant (NJ-wise) other-than-post-ban) upper with a bayonet lug as part of the front sight base. Normal in Free America, but not in the Glorious Peoples Republik of New Jerseystan. Easy enough to whack it off (get your mind out of the guttter!) with the cutter wheel on a dremel. Cold blue or hit it with one of the available markers. Also, is it ok for me to order that upper, never attach it to an upper, bring both the upper and lower (detached) to my ffl and have them pin the stock and weld the new brake on? Then be in a legal configuration? Only illegal of the upper and lower are connected with the flash hider? Perfectly legal for you to order that particular upper to ship directly to you here in the PRNJ. Where you could get your tits in a wringer is if you also control or possess a lower, thereby putting you in Constructive Possession of a prohibited NJ Assault Rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 1,091 Posted November 29, 2021 55 minutes ago, sroc112 said: How difficult is it to remove the entire bayonet lug? Did not even realize it had one. Also, is it ok for me to order that upper, never attach it to an upper, bring both the upper and lower (detached) to my ffl and have them pin the stock and weld the new brake on? Then be in a legal configuration? Only illegal of the upper and lower are connected with the flash hider? Steve at Monmouth Arms does a nice job with AR compliance work. 2 minutes ago, njJoniGuy said: Where you could get your tits in a wringer is if you also control or possess a lower, thereby putting you in Constructive Possession of a prohibited NJ Assault Rifle. Yep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 29, 2021 Monmouth arms is where i currently have my aero lower being shipped to. Just ordered it over the weekend. Think i may scratch that psa upper then. Also have my eyes on a colt 6920 upper and a spikes upper, if i can find a deal somewhere. Not in a huge rush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 29, 2021 Also open to some suggestions from you guys on a quality complete upper that wont break the bank. Keeping this rifle somewhat affordable. Want it to be carbine length with a 1:7 twist. 7 inch handguard with a mounted front sight. If it doesnt come with handguard or charging handle that is ok as i plan to replace with what i want anyway. Also ok of no bcg. Preferably no more than $800 and only willing to go that high if it does include rail, charging handle, and bcg that i like and wont have to replace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted November 29, 2021 I think Steve has some of those A2 brakes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 29, 2021 Justbto clarify, you are still able to do a 14.5 barrell with a break long enough to bring you to compliant length, correct? I dont see in the description but does this have the bayonet lug as well? Really not looking to go through having to remove it but i do want a front sight post. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/m4-5-56-upper-receiver-groups-prod69545.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted November 30, 2021 8 hours ago, sroc112 said: So is the only difference that its called a break and not flash hider? What is the actual difference that would be visible to the eye? Muzzle Brake, not Break... 51 minutes ago, sroc112 said: Justbto clarify, you are still able to do a 14.5 barrell with a break long enough to bring you to compliant length, correct? I dont see in the description but does this have the bayonet lug as well? Really not looking to go through having to remove it but i do want a front sight post. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/m4-5-56-upper-receiver-groups-prod69545.aspx My Spikes AR has a 14.5" barrel with a factory pinned Spikes Dynacomp brake, making the length 16" which is legal. The upper you posted is a Colt upper and it has the Front Sight Post Gas Block, which does have a Bayonet lug. 95% of FSP gas blocks have them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 30, 2021 Oopsie for the typo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 244 Posted November 30, 2021 Here is an almost complete kit for $479. Get a muzzle brake and pin and weld it. Then get a PSA stripped lower for $59. PSA 16" 5.56 NATO 1:7 Midlength Nitride 13.5" Lightweight M-Lok MOE EPT Rifle Kit w/ MBUS Sight Set | Palmetto State Armory AR-15 "Stealth" Stripped Lower Receiver | Palmetto State Armory Or get this upper for $349 PSA 16" Carbine-Length M4 5.56 NATO 1/8 Phosphate 13.5" Lightweight M-Lok Upper - With BCG & CH | Palmetto State Armory and this lower $149 PSA AR15 Complete MOE EPT Stealth Lower, Black | Palmetto State Armory and then get a muzzle brake and pin and weld it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted November 30, 2021 absolutely do not buy psa and especially during high volume times. they are notorious for qc issues and especially during holiday sales aero precision has complete uppers for less than 400 and complete lowers for 150 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 244 Posted November 30, 2021 I've gotten a lot from them recently, no issues. We'll see how long it takes my BF purchases to arrive though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted November 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, ESB said: I've gotten a lot from them recently, no issues. We'll see how long it takes my BF purchases to arrive though. that's good and I hope you get your bf stuff soon and free of any issues. Absolutely hard to argue for psa when aero is only slightly more right now. I will say I wish I did buy one of their 'let's go brandon' lowers though lol aero's blem sales are outstanding as were their bf sales. I missed out on a m5 lower, lpk, stock, buffer, spring, tube for 199! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InFamous 311 Posted November 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, RUTGERS95 said: I will say I wish I did buy one of their 'let's go brandon' lowers though lol I got my order locked in. Now to figure out what build I wanna do with it. I'm contemplating a build to match Rittenhouse's rifle, but if they come out with a Rittenhouse lower than I'll have to buy that and do it with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted November 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, InFamous said: I got my order locked in. Now to figure out what build I wanna do with it. I'm contemplating a build to match Rittenhouse's rifle, but if they come out with a Rittenhouse lower than I'll have to buy that and do it with that. I'd buy a Rittenhouse lower in a heartbeat! even a psa one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted November 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, RUTGERS95 said: I'd buy a Rittenhouse lower in a heartbeat! even a psa one For about $30, you can have anything you want laser engraved on to a no-roll mark lower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,323 Posted November 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said: For about $30, you can have anything you want laser engraved on to a no-roll mark lower. But what markings for the safe, semi and full positions for the Rittenhouse rifle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted November 30, 2021 I did pick up an aero complete lower on bf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted December 1, 2021 Brownells has Colt uppers for less than 500, you'd need a bcg and ch righttobear has AO precision bcgs for less than 100 (same as colt) and a charging handle is easy to come by food for thought Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sroc112 24 Posted December 1, 2021 Yup i did eye the colt uppers on brownells but looks like all the front sight posts have the bayonet lug. Trying to avoid the hassle of somehow removing the lug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites