In significant climate change action, New York City bans new gas hookups

[Bklynracer 1,265]

This should go over well, imagine first hard winter or big storm that knocks out the power.

imagine the extra cost of a update to a building or lager house.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/in-significant-climate-change-action-new-york-city-bans-new-gas-hookups-173727046.html

[Lawnmower2021 423]

Every time I see De Blasio in the news I keep thinking, "Is he still in office? Isn't someone else supposed to be mayor now?"

Not that I have high hopes, but he's making a dramatic exit for sure!

During one of the storms last year I lost power for about two weeks. If I didn't have a gas stove I would starve to death.

I think something people forget about electricity is that it needs to be generated and the means of delivery need to be produced, transported, and installed using heavy machinery. It's never a "clean" process. Compare it to the marginal difference in pollution from the average household's year of cooking, it can't be a huge improvement.

The bigger problem with NYC buildings is most of them are pre war and falling apart on the inside. I can't imagine any landlord wanting to do any major changes if it means they have to buy everyone expensive electric ranges.

[10X 3,296]

All or parts of CA have already enacted a ban on new natural gas hookups, eliminating an extraordinarily clean source of energy.  Yes, methane is a nasty greenhouse gas, but you can go after the leak sources (old water heaters are particularly bad, as home installations go) rather than impose a simple-minded ban across the board.

[Bomber 1,091]

3 hours ago, Bklynracer said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/in-significant-climate-change-action-new-york-city-bans-new-gas-hookups-173727046.html

Oh, the irony.

Con Ed stopped accepting new NG hookups in Westchester county citing lack of supply because Cuomo had blocked several new NG pipelines into NY.  

Cuomo then said: Oh, no you don't and forced Con Ed to back down and accept new hookups.

Now they have to build a 22,000 HP compressor in West Milford to force more NG through existing pipelines into NY.

[brucin 923]

1 hour ago, 10X said:

impose a simple-minded ban across the board

= progressive thinking.

[kc17 622]

Isn't there a group in NJ that wants to do the same thing? I'll occasionally hear a commercial on 101.5 urging people to contact Trenton in opposition of it. I don't know that it's been proposed as a Bill yet, but some group wants it. 

Now that Big Bird has done it, Gopher-face should be following right along as usual. 

[Sota 1,191]

13 hours ago, Lawnmower2021 said:

Every time I see De Blasio in the news I keep thinking, "Is he still in office? Isn't someone else supposed to be mayor now?"

Not that I have high hopes, but he's making a dramatic exit for sure!

During one of the storms last year I lost power for about two weeks. If I didn't have a gas stove I would starve to death.

I think something people forget about electricity is that it needs to be generated and the means of delivery need to be produced, transported, and installed using heavy machinery. It's never a "clean" process. Compare it to the marginal difference in pollution from the average household's year of cooking, it can't be a huge improvement.

The bigger problem with NYC buildings is most of them are pre war and falling apart on the inside. I can't imagine any landlord wanting to do any major changes if it means they have to buy everyone expensive electric ranges.

Electricity is also horrifically wasteful.  From generation, to transmission to substation, to local distribution, the losses are astonishing.

There's the reason the Compound will be entirely off-grid for all services.  I'll maintain 2 giant LP tanks for really cold heating and cooking if needed, but otherwise it's solar/hydro/wind for electricity (with an emergency generator of course), wood for primary heat.