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I’m in the process of applying for a gun permit and was told I need a letter from a doctor or pyschiatrist that holds a MD. Dr. Pirelli has been mentioned in other posts but won’t do because he doesn’t have a MD. Is there a doctor or psychiatrist that does this type of evaluation? Any advice is greatly appreciated. 

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On 1/3/2022 at 7:08 PM, Njrun125 said:

I’m in the process of applying for a gun permit and was told I need a letter from a doctor or psychiatrist that holds a MD. Dr. Pirelli has been mentioned in other posts but won’t do because he doesn’t have a MD. Is there a doctor or psychiatrist that does this type of evaluation? Any advice is greatly appreciated. 

It's an either / or type situation.  Pirelli will do fine, and in fact specializes in these cases.  You MAY have misunderstood the request by the Detective Bureau OR the Detective is misunderstanding the requirements (imagine THAT!)?  Did you call Pirelli's office to ascertain what is happening and get turned-down OR is there some other confusion mixed-in here?

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On 1/3/2022 at 7:08 PM, Njrun125 said:

I’m in the process of applying for a gun permit and was told I need a letter from a doctor or pyschiatrist that holds a MD. Dr. Pirelli has been mentioned in other posts but won’t do because he doesn’t have a MD. Is there a doctor or psychiatrist that does this type of evaluation? Any advice is greatly appreciated. 

About one year ago, a family member needed a similar letter to get a NJFID.  The family member contacted Dr. Pirelli's office and was assigned to one of his staff psychologists.  It did not have to be a psychiatrist.  About three months later, the family member submitted the application for a NJFID, two P2P, and the completed letter to the NJ State Police (we don't have a municipal police department).  About two months after that, we were shopping for two pistols.

Dr. Pirelli's services aren't cheap, however, when you read the finished letter, you can immediately determine a lot of thought went into writing it.  Even the state trooper who took the paperwork was impressed.

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On 1/5/2022 at 7:27 PM, dilbert1967 said:

About one year ago, a family member needed a similar letter to get a NJFID.  The family member contacted Dr. Pirelli's office and was assigned to one of his staff psychologists.  It did not have to be a psychiatrist.  About three months later, the family member submitted the application for a NJFID, two P2P, and the completed letter to the NJ State Police (we don't have a municipal police department).  About two months after that, we were shopping for two pistols.

Dr. Pirelli's services aren't cheap, however, when you read the finished letter, you can immediately determine a lot of thought went into writing it.  Even the state trooper who took the paperwork was impressed.

EXACTLY!

To tell EVERYONE here the truth, I'm getting a little tired of low-post-count Newbies to the forum with their pre-launched salvo of, "Don't say Pirelli" when their ass is in a sling.  And then all you hear is CRICKETS when you give the OP the real scoop (FACTS) on the matter.  I'm beginning to think that some of these Posters are too cheap to fight for their 2A rights and are too embarrassed to type it... 

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5 hours ago, Smokin .50 said:

To tell EVERYONE here the truth, I'm getting a little tired of low-post-count Newbies to the forum with their pre-launched salvo of, "Don't say Pirelli" when their ass is in a sling.  And then all you hear is CRICKETS when you give the OP the real scoop (FACTS) on the matter.  I'm beginning to think that some of these Posters are too cheap to fight for their 2A rights and are too embarrassed to type it... 

Or simply can't afford it.

Remember the surveys finding most people are hard pressed to come up with $500 in an emergency? 

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4 hours ago, Njrun125 said:

I confirmed again with the police department that the letter has to come from a MD. If anyone knows of a MD please let me know. 

Would help if you gave more details about what PD this is and exactly why they are requested a letter.

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No PD is going to ask for a Doctor's letter to attest that an applicant is safe to possess a gun unless there is a past mental issue that either came up during the background check or was volunteered on the application form.

It's not going to be easy to find an MD who doesn't know you to give out such a letter. I would seek a consultation with a Lawyer that handles 2A cases on a regular basis and go from there. Sometimes there is no cheap and easy way out!

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On 1/8/2022 at 3:12 PM, Njrun125 said:

I confirmed again with the police department that the letter has to come from a MD. If anyone knows of a MD please let me know. 

If the police department is insisting upon that requirement, I would reach out to NJ2AS (www.NJ2AS.org).  Alex may be able to help you out.  I'm really curious as to which PD that is.  If that doesn't work, then Johnny B already suggested the next step:  hire a 2A lawyer.

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On 1/10/2022 at 11:03 AM, dilbert1967 said:

If the police department is insisting upon that requirement, I would reach out to NJ2AS (www.NJ2AS.org).  Alex may be able to help you out.  I'm really curious as to which PD that is.  If that doesn't work, then Johnny B already suggested the next step:  hire a 2A lawyer.

who Alex 

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23 hours ago, Aaron said:

who Alex 

"Alex" is Alexander Roubian, president of New Jersey 2nd Amendment Society, or NJ2AS.  Or you become a member of ANJRPC.  They have several lawyers (on retainer?) that can answer basic legal questions. 

Given the recent Supreme Court ruling, and if the MD's letter is part of the PD's standard method of applying for a permit, they are going to have to re-think their applications requirements.

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There are only two types of Doctors that can evaluate you, a Dr. of Psychology (not an MD) or a Dr. of Psychiatry (MD). Giving an either/or makes no sense then saying they must hold an MD. Both are accredited Doctors board certified to evaluate your mental health. 

Expect to pay upwards of $400-500 for an initial eval, and about $300 for a couple follow up sessions. All in, probably about $1500 or more when your done. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the evaluating Dr. Requested all your prior mental health info, including notes from prior evals. 

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23 hours ago, JackDaWack said:

There are only two types of Doctors that can evaluate you, a Dr. of Psychology (not an MD) or a Dr. of Psychiatry (MD). Giving an either/or makes no sense then saying they must hold an MD. Both are accredited Doctors board certified to evaluate your mental health. 

Expect to pay upwards of $400-500 for an initial eval, and about $300 for a couple follow up sessions. All in, probably about $1500 or more when your done. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the evaluating Dr. Requested all your prior mental health info, including notes from prior evals. 

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      Name: Square Circle Sportsman
      Location: 97 Clementon Rd W, Gibbsboro, NJ 08026
      Website: N/A
      Phone: 609-435-9722
      Public/Private: Private
      Membership costs: $225/year, 2 work days required (or $35 for each missed), one-time Initiation fee of $112.50
      Membership requirements: 2 sponsors needed, NJFID card, up to 6 months of probation member status
      Guests: Free, up to 3
      Pistol: 25/50 Outdoor
      Indoor: 10/15/25 pistol or rimfire rifle
      Rifle: 25/50/75/100 (no .338 or .50)
      Skeet: No
      Trap: Yes, $2 a round for members, $4 for guests
      Pits: No
      Steel: No
      Extras: Very nice club house - w/full service bar, darts, pool table, etc., Lake (stocked for fishing) and picnic area, nature trail


      Name: Telco Sportsmen's Club
      Location: Columbia Ave, Atco, NJ (Off Jackson Rd right across from the Atco Raceway)
      Website: http://telcosportsmensclub.com
      Public/Private: Private
      Membership costs: $150/year with a one-time $35 initiation fee (spouse & junior: $35)
      Membership requirements: NJFID card, NRA Member
      Guests: No
      Pistol: 25 yard Outdoor
      Rifle: 50 & 100 yard
      Skeet: No
      Trap: Yes
      Pits: No
      Steel: bring your own steel targets, use at 50 or 100 yd range only
      Extras: Archery. Public trap shoot every Monday at 6pm, cost: $4
      No mandatory work requirement. Seasonal "work parties" are voluntary.
      Thanks to EchoVictor 76!


      Name: Tenafly Rifle and Pistol Club
      Location: 157 Grove Street
      Website: http://www.trpclub.org
      Public/Private: Private
      Membership costs: $300 initiation and $150 a year
      Membership requirements: Must range qualify
      Guests: $10
      Pistol: Standard loads and no magnums
      Indoor: 13 lane, 25 yards with target holders for closer distances
      Rifle: .22 rimfire
      Skeet: No
      Trap: No
      Pits: No
      Steel: No
      Extras: Moving duck gallery with .22 CB loads
      Thanks to Zadlaf!


      Name: USANA
      Hours: Mon-Fri 8 am - 5:30 pm, Sat- 9am - 5 pm, Sun- 9am - 12:30 pm
      Location: 224 Sand Bridge Rd. Pittsgrove, N.J.
      Website: N/A
      Public/Private: Private
      Membership costs: $120 per year, Pittsgrove resident $60
      Membership requirements: None
      Guests: Yes - $5 per guest
      Pistol: 25/50 yd covered range outdoor
      Indoor: 25 yd pistol
      Rifle: 50yd, 100yd covered range, and uncovered 200 yd in the works
      Skeet: yes, they are working on getting new throwers.
      Trap: See Above
      Pits: No
      Steel: Allowed, must bring your own
      Extras: Over 180 acres, Clubhouse - Emptied out by Harborsite, but will return.
      Thanks to gimmemym1!


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    • Guest
      By Guest
      Hello Everyone,
       
      I finally got my FID and 2 handgun permits from Teaneck PD last Friday and and super excited to say that I wasted no time in picking up a Glock 19 gen4 today from Luciano's in Lodi. I was really impressed with Joe over there. I began exploring the idea of getting my permit last Feb after a few visits to the range and let it sit in my mind for a bit. Then after seeing Ferguson and Baltimore riots on TV, I felt compelled to follow through.
       
      I applied mid-Sept. in Teaneck. Officer Daniel Garcia runs the ID bureau and I must say, he's really professional. Whole process took 2 and a half months which I guess isn't terrible compared to some other towns I've read about. Since I had only limited experience shooting, I did a lot of research and the general consensus was that the Glock 19 (esp w/NJ 15 mag cap. law) was the optimal choice for a novice.
       
      Needless to say, I'm really excited to begin my journey as a NJ Firearms owner. Now if only I could get CCW....
       
      I tried attaching a pic of it, not sure if it worked.

    • By MadeInAmerica
      Backwoods Home magazine accepts 4 pre-1965 quarters for a 1 year subscription, value $24.95. I was wondering if anyone knows of a store (mebbe in Utah, they have that whole Constitutional currency thing out there) that would sell me a Marlin .44 based on this formula. I'm short on cash now but I do have lot of "junk silver"
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