Lawnmower2021 423 Posted March 12, 2022 Hey All, I have a semi-auto 12 gauge that I bought to serve home defense and casual clay shooting. I mostly go to an indoor range; I tried it once with some 00 buckshot and the paper target was obliterated by the wads. It's still entertaining but seems counter-productive. Should I try cardboard? Any recommendations to get the best experience with shotguns? Thank you for your patience with silly questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My1stGlock 144 Posted March 12, 2022 Maybe an outdoor range and gallon jugs w/ water? I see lots of people at Range 14 getting creative and see some of them hanging too. The reaction when the rounds hits the water is always satisfactory. Bring lots of jugs. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted March 12, 2022 If you don't already have one, get a hunting license. That allows you to use the WMA ranges. My favorite target for shotgun is clay pigeons, but for just getting the hang of using a shotgun and patterning, I like Coroplast, ie corrugated plastic used in political lawn signs and we buy used cars, ugly houses etc. bs. You can just pull over and pluck free target stands, backer wherever you see 'em. The signs make for a good target backer/stand for rifle too. 29 minutes ago, My1stGlock said: Maybe an outdoor range and gallon jugs w/ water This too. Reactive targets are fun. I love blowing up 2L bottles and gallon jugs at 200 yards as much as I like getting sprayed on a hot day when I annihilate a gallon jug with buckshot. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My1stGlock 144 Posted March 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said: If you don't already have one, get a hunting license. That allows you to use the WMA ranges. My favorite target for shotgun is clay pigeons, but for just getting the hang of using a shotgun and patterning, I like Coroplast, ie corrugated plastic used in political lawn signs and we buy used cars, ugly houses etc. bs. You can just pull over and pluck free target stands, backer wherever you see 'em. The signs make for a good target backer/stand for rifle too. Just pull them off off the lawns from the dem supporters after the elections! LOL. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, My1stGlock said: Just pull them off off the lawns from the dem supporters after the elections! LOL. They are on private property, best to stick to the gazillion along the roadside. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,134 Posted March 12, 2022 What Scorpio said. Clay shooting. Familiarize yourself with your shotgun. How it works, what may go wrong with it, how to correct if something goes wrong, building up "muscle memory" so you can use it intuitively, etc. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawnmower2021 423 Posted March 12, 2022 Thanks for the input Ironically, though I had clays in mind for this gun I haven't actually had a chance to try. Will have to lookout for target loads then as I haven't happened on any yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,134 Posted March 12, 2022 @Lawnmower2021 Check out TargetsportsUSA for target loads. If they don't have them now you can set up a notification for when back in stock. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted March 12, 2022 I have used heavier paper targets from Action Targets at GFH with 00 buckshot, and they seem to hold up pretty well. Also, as long as you shoot at GFH, consider taking one of their Urban Shotgun classes, where you will get plenty of running and gunning. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted March 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, Lawnmower2021 said: Thanks for the input Ironically, though I had clays in mind for this gun I haven't actually had a chance to try. Will have to lookout for target loads then as I haven't happened on any yet. Simmons has 'em. What semi auto do you have though? Some are picky with lighter target loads. These are 1200FPS and should cycle better. https://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/remington-ammunition-20030-lead-game-loads-12-gauge-2-75-1-oz-7-5-shot-25-bx-10-cs/ These are lower FPS (1145 FPS) and may not cycle. https://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/federal-tgl1275-top-gun-12-gauge-2-75-1-1-8-oz-7-5-shot-25-bx-10-cs/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted March 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: These are lower FPS (1145 FPS) and may not cycle. https://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/federal-tgl1275-top-gun-12-gauge-2-75-1-1-8-oz-7-5-shot-25-bx-10-cs/ That''s a relatively good price right now. About $20/case below average. If I needed target loads, I'd snag the max of three cases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawnmower2021 423 Posted March 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: Simmons has 'em. What semi auto do you have though? Some are picky with lighter target loads. These are 1200FPS and should cycle better. https://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/remington-ammunition-20030-lead-game-loads-12-gauge-2-75-1-oz-7-5-shot-25-bx-10-cs/ These are lower FPS (1145 FPS) and may not cycle. https://www.simmonssportinggoods.com/federal-tgl1275-top-gun-12-gauge-2-75-1-1-8-oz-7-5-shot-25-bx-10-cs/ Thank you for the links and the tips! I have a Browning Silver Hunter. Which of these two would you guys recommend for it? I didn't consider heavy paper targets, I will check that out as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 12, 2022 In my opinion - step one is to get to a quality training course with a reputable instructor that can show you the initial methods to deploy the shotgun properly. I highly recommend Joe Reidy at Sights & Trigger in Bethlehem, PA. His shotgun class is an excellent value, close by, and a requires a reasonable round count. You’ll use target loads to learn, your chosen “duty” ammo to verify, and slugs at distance out to 100 yards to build confidence. That being said - the hardest part of running a shotgun is keeping it fed. Once you are trained on the proper manipulations, you’ll probably get the best return on practice time by getting some quality dummy rounds and practicing loading and manipulating the gun and shells coupled with dry fire. The mechanics of actually shooting are no different than any other long gun. Line up sights and move the trigger straight to the rear without disturbing the sight. With live fire at the range, use cardboard or the plastic sheets @Scorpio64 was talking about. Paper sucks by itself - however it is useful to face the cardboard/plastic backer for a clean target when patterning. It is paramount that you pattern your gun with the ammo you plan on using and at ranges that are appropriate for your needs. You need to know what your gun does with your ammo at the ranges you will likely deploy it. Unpopular Opinion - Clays are an excellent way to test yourself, and it’s tons of fun, but it doesn’t translate very well to “tactical” or HD application. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted March 15, 2022 Above is the S&T training schedule. Shotgun is October 1. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawnmower2021 423 Posted March 15, 2022 Thank you! Very helpful information I have actually been practicing with some 12 Gauge snap caps. Trying to master loading a second round without getting scratched Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites