Xtors 333 Posted May 2, 2022 FYI, if you aren't aware people are using Apple Air Tags to stalk people. More useful info at link. https://appletoolbox.com/airtag-stalking-everything-you-need-to-know/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted May 3, 2022 I miss the good old days of just hiding in the bushes. Oh, wait... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 3, 2022 This is why I don't use ANYTHING apple Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,918 Posted May 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, MartyZ said: This is why I don't use ANYTHING apple It isn't Apple doing it. It is people misusing an Apple device. Also, if you had an Apple phone, it would alert you to the fact that there is an air tag following you around that is not registered to your Apple account. I am no Apple fan, but I don't see how Apple is to blame for this. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said: It isn't Apple doing it. It is people misusing an Apple device. Also, if you had an Apple phone, it would alert you to the fact that there is an air tag following you around that is not registered to your Apple account. I am no Apple fan, but I don't see how Apple is to blame for this. It might not be apple doing it, but apple puts out technology that allows this to happen without considering the consequences. By now everyone should know that any time you put out technology that can track someone or something, it will be abused Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,918 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, MartyZ said: It might not be apple doing it, but apple puts out technology that allows this to happen without considering the consequences. By now everyone should know that any time you put out technology that can track someone or something, it will be abused Perhaps we should blame Samuel Colt for people misusing revolvers, too? There are legitimate use cases for tracking devices. The misuse by some people does not remove those use cases. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said: Perhaps we should blame Samuel Colt for people misusing revolvers, too? There are legitimate use cases for tracking devices. The misuse by some people does not remove those use cases. Totally different scenario. Maybe it's just me, but I take privacy very seriously and I look at some things differently than others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc17 622 Posted May 3, 2022 Tracking devices have been around for years, long before Apple decided to make them. It's doubtful you could determine if any other brand's device is attached to you or your property; unless it was visible that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, MartyZ said: It might not be apple doing it, but apple puts out technology that allows this to happen without considering the consequences. By now everyone should know that any time you put out technology that can track someone or something, it will be abused Except at least two other companies already had the technology out there. They didn't even lower the price point. Apple's just has more devices, so it works better. Apple has also put in place safeguards that the others never had. They also have brought a level of visibility and scrutiny to it that hasn't been around before. If you want it regulated, talk to your legislators. If apple makes a big enough market, it'll become that much more attractive to those developing tools to figure out if it is being abused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 3, 2022 I don't want anything regulated; I just want companies to look at the unintended consequences of their actions. I know it will never happen. The only thing I can do is not buy from companies that put out products like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted May 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, MartyZ said: I don't want anything regulated; I just want companies to look at the unintended consequences of their actions. I know it will never happen. The only thing I can do is not buy from companies that put out products like this. All current cell carriers support mobile tracking devices running on their data network. Are you going to boycott them? I mean why roll out a nationwide wireless data network when it can be abused to track people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartyZ 692 Posted May 3, 2022 See, this is why I don't post on here that often anymore. People have a tendency off taking someone's comments and twisting them to make them seem bigger than they are. I don't like when companies put out products for the SOLE purpose of tracking, period, that is my opinion and I'm sticking with it. Cell phones, GPS, geo tagging, etc... where not specifically designed for tracking, this product was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,737 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, kc17 said: Tracking devices have been around for years, long before Apple decided to make them. It's doubtful you could determine if any other brand's device is attached to you or your property; unless it was visible that is. This. Apple, Samsung (android platform) and all sorts of 3rd party tracking tags are available. Anything can be misused. I know Apple notifies you when in the presence of an Air Tag, and I believe other similar devices. 1 hour ago, MartyZ said: don't want anything regulated; I just want companies to look at the unintended consequences of their actions. The law of unintended consequences ALWAYS applies to everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtors 333 Posted May 3, 2022 From what I read, Apple is working on some changes to help protect against this in an upcoming iOS release. It will be interesting to see if it actually happens and what they come up with. A high-profile stalking/murder case involving one of these things would be absolutely horrible for their PR... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redeye65 162 Posted May 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Mr.Stu said: Perhaps we should blame Samuel Colt for people misusing revolvers, too? There are legitimate use cases for tracking devices. The misuse by some people does not remove those use cases. Noooo, Sammy C shouldn’t be blamed for anything…… ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites