NJ permit to carry a handgun requrements, post-Bruen

[samiam 150]

Regarding training/qualification. There is a 2-full-day NRA CCW class which is advertised as meeting the NJ CC requirements. Cost is $295. It is being offered in South Jersey by Full Metal Jacket range in Seavile on July 16 - 17 (incorrectly originally posted as "19 - 20") , and July 30 - 31, and at Cumberland Riflemen in Millville on July 30 - 31. It may be available at more venues, those are just what turned up in my initial search. Unfortunately I have a conflict on the early dates; I plan to take the FMJ course at the end of July. 

Questions regarding other requirements. I had inked fingerprints taken several months ago for an out-of-state renewal. I have a spare set. Does anyone have reliable information on how recent the prints are required to be? How recent a photo is required? Thanks.

I previously posted this in the main SCOTUS/Bruen discussion thread, as that is where everyone is understandably posting their questions and observations on the process there in their excitement over the ruling, although these questions and anwers probably belong here. If the mods need to clean up my cross-posting accordingly, that is fine with me. 

[gleninjersey 1,925]

And no need to have ANY answer for the "Justifiable Need" section.  It has been officially dropped and all Police Chiefs should have been notified.

https://www.anjrpc.org/page/NJDropsJustifiableNeed?fbclid=IwAR2ckKtGbnTW9u6Hujw51bgfl0R5ehu0MzgmlW6CnuvrY0JbFh-9ysWB78w&fs=e&s=cl

[samiam 150]

I was going to enter "ALL LEGAL REASONS per SCOTUS 20-843 (NYSR&PA et al v. BRUEN et al)" I guess that is unnecessarily antagonistic now, eh? Probably not prudent to throw salt in an open wound, no matter satisfying it might be. Damn :>(

[JackDaWack 2,642]

2 full days? 

Gun for hire will have something waaay shorter, not sure the length yet, but probably a few hours or less. 

 

There is a running ccw thread in the general forum. 

[CMJeepster 2,065]

"Until we see statutes, we don't know what we'll be fighting." - Dan Schmutter, Esq.

The Gun For Hire Radio Broadcast: Episode 579 - Best Gun Range NYC and NJ Area | Gun Range Near Me

[oneshot 19]

Pretty sure gun for hire and rtsp will offer much shorter and less expensive alternatives. Visit their sites

Gun for hire is in woodlawn park and rtsp is in union and randolph

[124gr9mm 536]

IMO, Anthony @gunforhire has setup a great webpage that has links to all the forms you need to use and he's setup time slots for people to sign up for their the Qualification - https://gunforhire.com/nj-ccw-permit/

The website lists the qualification as $150 (+ $50 for each additional gun).

Looks like a one stop shop for CCW needs.

[NJSigfan 217]

Can someone explain what the timing limits are for the quals?  I know it’s 50 rounds broken down at various distances, but what is the timing requirement in total or per distance?

[DAHL 10]

The qualification requirements for obtaining a carry permit in New Jersey are the same as the FBI in-service qualification HQC-1 using the FBI Q type target. It is broken down into 8 segments 25 yd, 15, 10, 7, 5 and 1. In all segments you are required to draw from concealed, fire and hit the target. Positions are standing, kneeling, and ready. There is one segment where you must shoot with your "off hand" another where you must do a quick magazine reload.  Time of each segment varies from 2 to 30 seconds as fast shooting. You will fire 60 rds and be required to hit the target 48 times or more to pass the qualification test. Most ranges will NOT allow you to draw and fire a loaded gun from a  holster so this must be looked at. You can only qualify with the pistol that you intend to carry. Not easy right now as the requirements for NJ carry are identical for FBI agents and law enforcement..

[124gr9mm 536]

11 minutes ago, DAHL said:

The qualification requirements for obtaining a carry permit in New Jersey are the same as the FBI in-service qualification HQC-1 using the FBI Q type target. It is broken down into 8 segments 25 yd, 15, 10, 7, 5 and 1. In all segments you are required to draw from concealed, fire and hit the target. Positions are standing, kneeling, and ready. There is one segment where you must shoot with your "off hand" another where you must do a quick magazine reload.  Time of each segment varies from 2 to 30 seconds as fast shooting. You will fire 60 rds and be required to hit the target 48 times or more to pass the qualification test. Most ranges will NOT allow you to draw and fire a loaded gun from a  holster so this must be looked at. You can only qualify with the pistol that you intend to carry. Not easy right now as the requirements for NJ carry are identical for FBI agents and law enforcement..

That's not the qualification at GFH.  From their website:

 

Qualification Course:
In the range you will demonstrate familiarity of safe handling of firearms. Upon successful completion you will be given a certificate to submit with your application. All of our instructors are PTC, NRA and LE certified. Gun For Hire has been qualifying security, private carry and retired police since 1992. 

This is not a beginner course! You will be required to demonstrate safety, familiarity, and accuracy. It is pass or fail.
– No holster needed
– All shooting from the ready position
– 50 rounds per firearm
– FBI Q target
– 24 rounds at 7 yards
– 14 rounds at 10 yards
– 6 rounds at 15 yards
– 6 rounds at 25 yards
For a total of 50 rounds. Must hit at least 40 rounds out of 50 (80%)

[oneshot 19]

59 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said:

That's not the qualification at GFH.  From their website:

 

Qualification Course:
In the range you will demonstrate familiarity of safe handling of firearms. Upon successful completion you will be given a certificate to submit with your application. All of our instructors are PTC, NRA and LE certified. Gun For Hire has been qualifying security, private carry and retired police since 1992. 

This is not a beginner course! You will be required to demonstrate safety, familiarity, and accuracy. It is pass or fail.
– No holster needed
– All shooting from the ready position
– 50 rounds per firearm
– FBI Q target
– 24 rounds at 7 yards
– 14 rounds at 10 yards
– 6 rounds at 15 yards
– 6 rounds at 25 yards
For a total of 50 rounds. Must hit at least 40 rounds out of 50 (80%)

Thats what i saw as well. I was going to ask where he got his info from about course of fire

[Mr.Stu 1,143]

The CoF for qualifying is not specified anywhere. It appears to be up to the instructor running the qual to decide what he/she wants in order to be satisfied that you are competent and safe.

Many people are leaning towards the HQC1, HQC2 & HNQC as there is little scope for the authorities to argue with the validity as that is what RPOs qualify doing.

[kman 56]

I would hope they set up something different for qualifying with a revolver.  24 shots at 7 yards under time constraints would be pretty difficult if you have to reload a J frame 5 times.

[124gr9mm 536]

25 minutes ago, kman said:

I would hope they set up something different for qualifying with a revolver.  24 shots at 7 yards under time constraints would be pretty difficult if you have to reload a J frame 5 times.

Call GFH. The website asks that you bring at least 3 speed loaders for revolver. That implies there's no time constraint.

IMO the FBI/Police quals being referenced are not necessary. 

[samiam 150]

12 hours ago, kman said:

I would hope they set up something different for qualifying with a revolver.  24 shots at 7 yards under time constraints would be pretty difficult if you have to reload a J frame 5 times.

I'm in the same boat. I read somewhere in the RPO requirements about allowances made for revolvers, but I've read so friggin' much on this subject in the past week (has it really only been a week :>? that I'd be hard pressed to find it again. 

[ShootersShooter 57]

Scheduled for my CCW qualification course next Wednesday morning.  Ironic that after waiting 50 yrs. for the laws to change I get it 2 days after Independence Day.

[Golf battery 1,156]

I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried?   Also.  Since nj considers an air pistol a firearm.   Can you carry that if you qual with it.  Just wondering 

[Shocker 124]

1 hour ago, Golf battery said:

I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried?   

Latest GFH podcast opines (Bach? Nappen? He didn’t say) it’s still no. Stick with critical defense/pow’r’ball etc

[CMJeepster 2,065]

On 7/4/2022 at 1:33 PM, Golf battery said:

I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried?   Also.  Since nj considers an air pistol a firearm.   Can you carry that if you qual with it.  Just wondering 

I'll bring mine right over.  

[1LtCAP 3,577]

On 7/4/2022 at 1:33 PM, Golf battery said:

I wonder if hollow points will be able to be carried?   Also.  Since nj considers an air pistol a firearm.   Can you carry that if you qual with it.  Just wondering 

just took a ccw course yesterday.  as of now, no. critical defense is apparently allowed though.....