RadioGunner 218 Posted July 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, quikz said: Do you mean before, or after NYSRPA vs. BRUEN? Before. bruen does talk about excessive fees as being unconstitutional but since NJ charges $50 + $56.50 I don’t see such a challenge being successful against NJ. NYC, sure. They charge $340. The ranges are private businesses and can charge what the market will bear. I can see some upstarts doing discount quals in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 823 Posted July 17, 2022 yup......real 2A advocates....omo. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted July 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, Frank Thomas said: Can applicants for concealed carry please state what happened to your application? Were you approved for concealed carry or denied? If denied, what was the reason why denied? And am I correct no formal training certificate required? Reason for wanting actual experiences is b/c too much conflicts on the requirements. Thanks Do you mean before or after Bruen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 823 Posted July 17, 2022 the same 25/ph range time is now 100 bucks plus...............omo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted July 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, xXxplosive said: the same 25/ph range time is now 100 bucks plus...............omo. Once the whole thing dies down it will probably go way down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Thomas 21 Posted July 18, 2022 I mean after the Bruen decisioin. Have applicants for concealed carry been getting approved or denied? What do the applicants attribute their approval or denial to? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Frank Thomas said: I mean after the Bruen decisioin. Have applicants for concealed carry been getting approved or denied? What do the applicants attribute their approval or denial to? Thanks We DO NOT have any (yet) direct account of approval or denial. In this thread, lot of accounts of people who applied (including myself). Barring the confusion created by people questioning legality of what NJSP laid out, my personal opinion is that the process is as clear as it can get for a while. So if you want to apply and have money, follow published NJSP directions (ONE PAGE instruction sheet that clearly lays out) or local PD instructions. All other "what-if", "why-do-i-need-to-spend", "ranges-are-robbing-everyone", "no-body-knows-what-they-are-doing" is, while great discussions points to be had, are not helpful to those who like to apply sooner than later. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddD 59 Posted July 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, CJack said: We DO NOT have any (yet) direct account of approval or denial. In this thread, lot of accounts of people who applied (including myself). Barring the confusion created by people questioning legality of what NJSP laid out, my personal opinion is that the process is as clear as it can get for a while. So if you want to apply and have money, follow published NJSP directions (ONE PAGE instruction sheet that clearly lays out) or local PD instructions. All other "what-if", "why-do-i-need-to-spend", "ranges-are-robbing-everyone", "no-body-knows-what-they-are-doing" is, while great discussions points to be had, are not helpful to those who like to apply sooner than later. ^^^^ so much this^^^^ As soon as I hear anything from a government agency I’ll update. I submitted app on 7/5 and had my prints done 7/6. Identogo has my pcn number dated 7/9. Just a waiting game now. Fingers crossed I get approved. No reason I shouldn’t be, just, you know … yeah. Fingers crossed. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 823 Posted July 18, 2022 10 hours ago, CJack said: We DO NOT have any (yet) direct account of approval or denial. In this thread, lot of accounts of people who applied (including myself). Barring the confusion created by people questioning legality of what NJSP laid out, my personal opinion is that the process is as clear as it can get for a while. So if you want to apply and have money, follow published NJSP directions (ONE PAGE instruction sheet that clearly lays out) or local PD instructions. All other "what-if", "why-do-i-need-to-spend", "ranges-are-robbing-everyone", "no-body-knows-what-they-are-doing" is, while great discussions points to be had, are not helpful to those who like to apply sooner than later. shameful...............omo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted July 18, 2022 How to Obtain My NJ CCW - WeShoot (weshootusa.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted July 18, 2022 11 hours ago, CJack said: We DO NOT have any (yet) direct account of approval or denial. In this thread, lot of accounts of people who applied (including myself). Barring the confusion created by people questioning legality of what NJSP laid out, my personal opinion is that the process is as clear as it can get for a while. So if you want to apply and have money, follow published NJSP directions (ONE PAGE instruction sheet that clearly lays out) or local PD instructions. All other "what-if", "why-do-i-need-to-spend", "ranges-are-robbing-everyone", "no-body-knows-what-they-are-doing" is, while great discussions points to be had, are not helpful to those who like to apply sooner than later. An RSO at Reloaderz posted a pic of his permit on Instagram. He’s not a LEO and he said it took a week. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeL417 33 Posted July 18, 2022 So make sure you submit the updated SP-642 form. My PD made me redo the entire form over after asking the SP and they confirmed they will not accept the old form. A few other people who rushed to send in their applications are gonna have a hard time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted July 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, MikeL417 said: So make sure you submit the updated SP-642 form. My PD made me redo the entire form over after asking the SP and they confirmed they will not accept the old form. A few other people who rushed to send in their applications are gonna have a hard time. Date of form? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeL417 33 Posted July 18, 2022 Updated one says (Rev. 06/22) on the bottom and the old one says (Rev. 03/15). Simply googled NJ CCW and the old form is the first thing that comes up so you gotta be careful. Updated application: https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/sp-642.pdf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddD 59 Posted July 18, 2022 The newest form has a revision date of 6/22 and can be found here : https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/sp-642.pdf when I picked up my packet on 6/27(ish) my local pd gave me the older version. I printed the new one myself (double sided of course) to be used and handed in. I’m happy I went looking for a fillable pdf version . Edit: damn you MikeL417 and your quick fingers! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,873 Posted July 18, 2022 And I see the new version still has a 'G. Lack of justifiable need' checkbox in the "Reason for Disapproval" field. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadayo 39 Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, RadioGunner said: An RSO at Reloaderz posted a pic of his permit on Instagram. He’s not a LEO and he said it took a week. Do you have a link to this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CapGuns&SnapsKid 33 Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kadayo said: Do you have a link to this? https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3ODY4NjUxMzg5Njk2NzY0?story_media_id=2882228826244377385&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, CapGuns&SnapsKid said: https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3ODY4NjUxMzg5Njk2NzY0?story_media_id=2882228826244377385&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= And now the unicorns will become plain horses! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 18, 2022 Nice - I see he qual'd with the HQC1 too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadayo 39 Posted July 18, 2022 Where is the picture? On the back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted July 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: Nice - I see he qual'd with the HQC1 too. How do you know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted July 18, 2022 Saw some guy qualifying a bunch of people at CR yesterday.... low ready.... and the following targets.... not the Q. NRA 10 foot basic pistol.... NRA B-27 at 10 Ft and 10 yards... And I am punching a Q target at 25yds..stracthing my head 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, CAL. .30 M1 said: How do you know? I checked their instagram feed - they were asked which qual they used. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CapGuns&SnapsKid 33 Posted July 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, CAL. .30 M1 said: How do you know? If you keep watching the IG story its like the 4th post after the CCW pic. Someone asked what COF they ran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 823 Posted July 18, 2022 got it............ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,322 Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, 45Doll said: And I see the new version still has a 'G. Lack of justifiable need' checkbox in the "Reason for Disapproval" field. OOPS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, CAL. .30 M1 said: How do you know? He signed off on my quals :-). HCQ-1 I updated title to reflect what it really is.. A carry permit (not just ccw). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fslater 62 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 4:30 PM, JackDaWack said: The judge ruled on FPID applications, not carry. So it does not apply. The judge absolved them from the 30 day rule. I was talking about 30 day for FPID and purchase permits, not ccw. Are they honoring 30 day for FPID and purchase permits now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Krdshrk said: Nice - I see he qual'd with the HQC1 too. Yes but GFH Anthony is saying he’s seen others qualify with his qual get issued as well. Time will tell. Hopefully NJSP doesn’t take too long for me 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites