NJ Handgun Carry Permit Application Experience

[chrisfc923 14]

Just called in Monmouth Courts and apparently Judge Lucas last signed off on permit #195. I'm #205 so I'm hoping to hear back from them soon. 

[CMJeepster 2,777]

Too long.  This isn't a new process.

Congrats to those that received.

[ShootersShooter 120]

I just received the email with my 2 latest P2Ps applied for Aug. 20. Once I  saw it was well over 60 days I began asking questions.  It was approved Oct 13th, but no email was received, and I needed to contact local PD who tried but eventually gave me a tech number of the state. That rep was excellent and cleared the issue after 2-3 different tries. Anyone waiting an excessive length of time might consider doing the same. Tech # I used was 609-586-2600.

[MrAceJD 21]

1 hour ago, chrisfc923 said:

Just called in Monmouth Courts and apparently Judge Lucas last signed off on permit #195. I'm #205 so I'm hoping to hear back from them soon. 

I am in the low 100's, I think.  Is the Number Mon 205-2022, with 205 being the application number?

I have not heard anything since receiving a copy of the letter from the Prosecutor's office about a month ago saying I was compliant.

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[brucin 923]

1 hour ago, samiam said:

Can you seriously say that you think the NJ Authoritae will consider a statement on the NJSP website to be binding, when it has proven more than willing, time and time again, to blatantly violate the plain wording of NJ statutes and Amendments to the U. S. Constitution whenever it finds such legalities to be inconvenient? Jim Jones is smirking from beyond the veil. 

I think that a Federal judge will force them to hold to it.

Refusing to live up to their contract would be a willful violation of a civil right. 

That will get expensive for the state pretty quick.

[chrisfc923 14]

3 hours ago, MrAceJD said:

I am in the low 100's, I think.  Is the Number Mon 205-2022, with 205 being the application number?

I have not heard anything since receiving a copy of the letter from the Prosecutor's office about a month ago saying I was compliant.

Correct, I was told she just signed off of a bulk of them up to 195 so theres a chance that yours is in that pile. I would call the court and verify. The lady that picked up for Judge Lucas was very helpful

[silverado427 10,679]

Has anyone been denied a CC permit.

[SJgunguy9899 15]

Well I finally got that call from the court. I have a hearing with judge Taylor in Atlantic county next week. Should be interesting 

[Mike77 169]

Just now, SJgunguy9899 said:

Well I finally got that call from the court. I have a hearing with judge Taylor in Atlantic county next week. Should be interesting 

A hearing........so wrong!!!!

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[SJgunguy9899 15]

4 minutes ago, Mike77 said:

A hearing........so wrong!!!!

Yeah, not happy about taking a vacation day from work but I guess this is progress since I’ve been waiting since early July. Weather the progress is positive or negative remains to be seen. 

[gleninjersey 2,139]

3 hours ago, silverado427 said:

Has anyone been denied a CC permit.

People have been denied for some of the most absurd reasons.  Too many speeding tickets, going through a divorce, recovering alcoholic who hasn't had drink in years and years, etc, etc.  

THIS is why they are requiring you to appear in court.  To find ANY possible reason possible to deny you.  

They talk about it a little bit starting around the 29 minute mark in link below for about 10 mintues or so.  There was also an article I had read that explains how they are using the "concern for public safety" as a VERY broad net to atteampt to deny for just about any reason they can think of.  It varies county by county.  From what little I know some counties are issuing with little to no issue while others are making it as difficult as possible.

https://gunforhire.com/blog/the-gun-for-hire-radio-broadcast-episode-590/

 

[Kdin1 11]

2 hours ago, SJgunguy9899 said:

Well I finally got that call from the court. I have a hearing with judge Taylor in Atlantic county next week. Should be interesting 

I received a phone call from Atlantic court telling me that they are having on Nov 3 email with the details. Did you receive an EMAIL 

[Mike77 169]

6 minutes ago, gleninjersey said:

People have been denied for some of the most absurd reasons.  Too many speeding tickets, going through a divorce, recovering alcoholic who hasn't had drink in years and years, etc, etc.  

THIS is why they are requiring you to appear in court.  To find ANY possible reason possible to deny you.  

They talk about it a little bit starting around the 29 minute mark in link below for about 10 mintues or so.  There was also an article I had read that explains how they are using the "concern for public safety" as a VERY broad net to atteampt to deny for just about any reason they can think of.  It varies county by county.  From what little I know some counties are issuing with little to no issue while others are making it as difficult as possible.

https://gunforhire.com/blog/the-gun-for-hire-radio-broadcast-episode-590/

 

But again, doesnt this fall under the whole unconstitutional category? 

[gleninjersey 2,139]

6 minutes ago, Mike77 said:

But again, doesnt this fall under the whole unconstitutional category? 

If you are applying and enforcing the law differently on a county by county basis then I believe a sound arguement could be made about equal protection.  

There are probably numerous constituional issues that could be brought up.  The Supreme Court recently ruled in Bruen that it would be a violation of the 2nd Amendment ,and by extension the right to carry,  to make the majority of places "gun free zones" or prohbited areas.  Yet here's NJ and NYC doing exactly that with their new proposed laws.  The law makers are attempting to pass laws THAT THEY KNOW are counter to the recent Supreme Court ruling.  

[SJgunguy9899 15]

52 minutes ago, Kdin1 said:

I received a phone call from Atlantic court telling me that they are having on Nov 3 email with the details. Did you receive an EMAIL 

No. She asked for my email and I gave it to her that’s all. I’m assuming I will receive the email closer to the hearing date

[Displaced Texan 11,731]

I’m not going to tell you how long it took Texas to approve and send me my LTC…

[Mike77 169]

1 hour ago, Displaced Texan said:

I’m not going to tell you how long it took Texas to approve and send me my LTC…

Less time than to make a cheese sandwich 

[CMJeepster 2,777]

9 hours ago, Mike77 said:

Less time than to make a pork roll, egg & cheese sandwich 

FIFY

[bennj 215]

Probably way less time than making a pork roll, egg, and cheese sandwich.

Ok CM Jeepster, typing as you posted.

[Mike77 169]

27 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

FIFY

Pork roll egg & cheese......in Texas??

[Displaced Texan 11,731]

6 minutes ago, Mike77 said:

Pork roll egg & cheese......in Texas??

Lol, my wife ordered some Taylor Pork Roll on Amazon the other day…

[CMJeepster 2,777]

7 minutes ago, Mike77 said:

Pork roll egg & cheese......in Texas??

Why not?  We ship pierogies to my wife's great aunt in California every couple of months.

[Mike77 169]

Just now, Displaced Texan said:

Lol, my wife ordered some Taylor Pork Roll on Amazon the other day…

Your wife must be a tranny, because she got a huge set of balls!!!!! Buying meat on amazon???  sheesh!!!

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[MikeL417 33]

Break Break Somerset County I was phoned at 8am by the court to tell me that I was approved and permit was heading back to PD for pickup. Of course I will post photo evidence as soon as it is in hand!

[raz-0 1,259]

1 hour ago, samiam said:

I know that actually getting such things done is very time-consuming, but failure to take some time to let their constituency know what they are planning and doing is not a viable option. 

Making your plans public is the same as telling your opposition your plans. It's being worked on. Everyone knows it involves gathering data and suing. In NJ, until the new batch of bad laws passes, we are dealing with a more complex legal challenge about patterns of behavior and what is actually happening vs what's actually written in the law. Stonewalling and slow walking things is a much harder thing to successfully sue over than a black and white law in violation. This may all just accelerate and be much more clear when they pass the new laws that give Bruen the middle finger. Then lumping in what was observed on the ground becomes an add on. 

[Displaced Texan 11,731]

20 minutes ago, raz-0 said:

Making your plans public is the same as telling your opposition your plans. It's being worked on. Everyone knows it involves gathering data and suing. In NJ, until the new batch of bad laws passes, we are dealing with a more complex legal challenge about patterns of behavior and what is actually happening vs what's actually written in the law. Stonewalling and slow walking things is a much harder thing to successfully sue over than a black and white law in violation. This may all just accelerate and be much more clear when they pass the new laws that give Bruen the middle finger. Then lumping in what was observed on the ground becomes an add on. 

This. 
 

Until the (unconstitutional) law is actually passed and signed into law, it’s all a bunch of mental masturbation. 
Nothing to sue over….yet. 
 

I believe the ANJRPC and CNJFO will take action shortly after anything is made into law. 
 

Someone else noted earlier that in the last 6 months, NJ gun owners have made more progress than in the last 50 years. 
 

Take your wins. Prepare for the next battle. It ain’t over, but y’all will prevail.