Flyingcarpenter 1 Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 9:51 PM, trnq said: That's ridiculous. They must have lost your application or something. I applied for non-resident permit at Totowa NJSP in mid August. Had the permit issued on the 19th as well, probably one of the same 20 ppl as your friend. Contact [email protected] - that's the head unit at NJSP superintendent office that oversees CCW permitting for the state. They should have received your application after Totowa cleared you and should be able to tell you the status. Thanks for the email tip, I have emailed them in November, prior to them changing the process. I re-emailed them last week, hopefully this time they have my application and can offer me some info. They didn't lose my app, confirmed recently by the investigating trooper, however it may have worked its way to the bottom of the pile after a followup call. I am always polite, in any case, it's possible that over worked cops don't appreciate follow up calls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,765 Posted February 7, 2023 14 hours ago, DbleTrouble said: Since I submitted before the changes after 60 days should I be contacting the chief to get an update? That's up to you. Too many variables to consider for me to offer advice. Is the chief 2A friendly? Is the town / local government 2A friendly? Is there a Moms Demand Action person on the governing body? And so on... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,765 Posted February 7, 2023 13 hours ago, Frank Thomas said: CM, you're saying the police have 90 days to approve/deny the carry app? Is this in writing somewhere? And what happens if they go over the 90 day limit? thanks And nothing happens, just like the fact that most PDs don't make or ignore the turn-around time for pistol permits. Nobody is ever held accountable as "they" don't want you to own, let alone carry firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DbleTrouble 8 Posted February 7, 2023 16 hours ago, Flyingcarpenter said: Thanks for the email tip, I have emailed them in November, prior to them changing the process. I re-emailed them last week, hopefully this time they have my application and can offer me some info. They didn't lose my app, confirmed recently by the investigating trooper, however it may have worked its way to the bottom of the pile after a followup call. I am always polite, in any case, it's possible that over worked cops don't appreciate follow up calls. The PD should have given you a case number when you submitted the application. That is how applications are tracked along with everything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyingcarpenter 1 Posted February 7, 2023 Everyone I know who applied at the state police level, did not get a case number. Not saying your wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted February 7, 2023 22 hours ago, Frank Thomas said: CM, you're saying the police have 90 days to approve/deny the carry app? Is this in writing somewhere? And what happens if they go over the 90 day limit? thanks If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,765 Posted February 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, RadioGunner said: If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything. This. Use your brain. Don't carry if you don't have the permission slip. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, RadioGunner said: If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything. Once application is “complete” the Chief has 90 days to approve or deny the CCW. Chief may extend 30 more days for good cause with written notification to the applicant. Chief may take longer than the initial 120 days if necessary - that extension must be agreed upon by both the applicant and Chief. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeg 3 Posted February 8, 2023 FYI https://newjersey.news12.com/casino-association-of-nj-announces-firearms-will-not-be-allowed-in-atlantic-city-casinos 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Thomas 21 Posted February 8, 2023 9 hours ago, CMJeepster said: And nothing happens, just like the fact that most PDs don't make or ignore the turn-around time for pistol permits. Nobody is ever held accountable as "they" don't want you to own, let alone carry firearms. Be nice if the US Supreme Court allowed individuals to sue States that improperly delay the gun licensing app. I'm beginning to dislike liberals 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted February 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, joeg said: FYI https://newjersey.news12.com/casino-association-of-nj-announces-firearms-will-not-be-allowed-in-atlantic-city-casinos AC still has casinos? Saves me from going to the dumpy AC casinos I guess. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,278 Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, joeg said: FYI https://newjersey.news12.com/casino-association-of-nj-announces-firearms-will-not-be-allowed-in-atlantic-city-casinos I saw that. Already updated the ‘businesses where you can’t carry’ page 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted February 8, 2023 On 2/6/2023 at 6:28 PM, DbleTrouble said: Since I submitted before the changes after 60 days should I be contacting the chief to get an update? If your paperwork did not get sent to the courts before the new laws, I believe you are subject to the new laws minus the TRO and the new fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exfed2002 4 Posted February 8, 2023 8 hours ago, 10X said: I saw that. Already updated the ‘businesses where you can’t carry’ page You never were allowed to carry in a casino. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vdep217 61 Posted February 8, 2023 With the tro issued you could now the casinos are saying no but they have to put up sognage 1 hour ago, exfed2002 said: You never were allowed to carry in a casino. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,759 Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vdep217 said: With the tro issued you could now the casinos are saying no but they have to put up sognage 1 hour ago, exfed2002 said: You never were allowed to carry in a casino. That's utter BS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vdep217 61 Posted February 8, 2023 While I agree it is their right to exclude carry. We fight for 2a but often forget about other rights 36 minutes ago, Downtownv said: That's utter BS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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124gr9mm 857 Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Vdep217 said: We fight for 2a but often forget about other rights Huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted February 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, 124gr9mm said: Huh? Like property owner rights... It is private property and the owner has the right to not allow carry via signage. The difference is this is a trespassing charge vs felony gun charge like carrying at a school for example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 857 Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, ESB said: Like property owner rights... It is private property and the owner has the right to not allow carry via signage. The difference is this is a trespassing charge vs felony gun charge like carrying at a school for example. Yeah, I don't think anyone here disagrees with that. I think the gunslinger picture was posted tongue-in-cheek... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucin 918 Posted February 8, 2023 Put up a sign you don't get my dime. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, brucin said: Put up a sign you don't get my dime. This is the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,759 Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, 124gr9mm said: Yeah, I don't think anyone here disagrees with that. I think the gunslinger picture was posted tongue-in-cheek... it was. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted February 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, ESB said: Like property owner rights... It is private property and the owner has the right to not allow carry via signage. The difference is this is a trespassing charge vs felony gun charge like carrying at a school for example. The problem I have with this is the state encouraging or even demanding that establishments ban carry. And that any ban doesn’t extend to retired law enforcement. Any ban should be entirely voluntary and the state should have no say. Unfortunately I suspect they’ve been getting nudged by the administration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted February 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, brucin said: Put up a sign you don't get my dime. Absolutely. Whether I'm currently carrying or not. If you put up a sign and you aren't required, you are black listed. Not using your services again, and will recommend others to stay away. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downtownv 1,759 Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, RadioGunner said: The problem I have with this is the state encouraging or even demanding that establishments ban carry. And that any ban doesn’t extend to retired law enforcement. You can bet your ass, that's exactly what occurred with the casinos. As for other businesses that post that kind of sign they should post one next to it that says "We welcome thugs to come in and rob us we have no other people in here with guns" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, RadioGunner said: The problem I have with this is the state encouraging or even demanding that establishments ban carry. And that any ban doesn’t extend to retired law enforcement. When the State said they were going to tell private citizens and businesses that they SHOULD put up signs, the judge was very quick and clear to correct them that they can only say they CAN put up signs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,278 Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, ESB said: Absolutely. Whether I'm currently carrying a or not. If you put up a sign and you aren't required, you are black listed. Not using your services again, and will recommend others to stay away. Call those businesses out as you find them, and I'll add them to this list: List of NJ Businesses Posting 'No Guns' Signs 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted February 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Downtownv said: yiou can bet your ass that's exactly what occurred with the casinos. As for other businesses that post that kind of sign they should post one next to it that says "We welcome thugs to come in and rob us we have no other people in here with guns" Businesses that put up signs should also be on the hook for everyone's protection. If you prevent me from protecting myself and my family and something happens, it all fall on you. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites