revenger 473 Posted July 3, 2022 can we start a qualification thread here to compare experiences as we go through. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted July 4, 2022 good idea. following. thanks man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
always_an_eagle 165 Posted July 5, 2022 I’m going to do my qualification at RTSP in Randolph on Thursday. Will report back here once I do it. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 5, 2022 I see GFH calendar has been pretty full with all day quals. I wonder how many apps are flooding in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 6, 2022 I did HQC-1 quals with ReloaderzNJ. Really nice, clean and professional place. They were super nice, detailed in instructions and even did notary onsite. Full HQC-1 by the book. Starting at 25 yards and down to 1 yard. 60 rounds. Pass score is 48 (80%). Holster, support hand shooting, strong hand shooting, kneeling .. the whole nine yards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 6, 2022 I just qualified at Shooters Sporting Center, standard FBI-Q target 30 rounds, 10 ea. 5-7.5-10 yards, only need an 80% to pass. Heavy fiber board targets, couldn't bring it home, but I had a 6" spread, no reload drill, no support hand shooting. Conducted by retired State Police Officer. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,680 Posted July 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, ShootersShooter said: I just qualified at Shooters Sporting Center, standard FBI-Q target 30 rounds, 10 ea. 5-7.5-10 yards, only need an 80% to pass. Heavy fiber board targets, couldn't bring it home, but I had a 6" spread, no reload drill, no support hand shooting. Conducted by retired State Police Officer. Did you draw from a holster or the ready position Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 6, 2022 No, straight forward low ready to firing position, two hand. I was untimed but it is too easy to do steady fire& some double taps. If you shoot once a month you should have no trouble taking the course offered there with very good results. Everyone in a class of 20 passed, one person was advised to get some additional training. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortfuse 39 Posted July 6, 2022 6 hours ago, ShootersShooter said: No, straight forward low ready to firing position, two hand. I was untimed but it is too easy to do steady fire& some double taps. If you shoot once a month you should have no trouble taking the course offered there with very good results. Everyone in a class of 20 passed, one person was advised to get some additional training. No info on there website do you know there schedule for Qualifier , How long did it take and How much did they charge. Thank You Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddD 59 Posted July 6, 2022 Went to rtsp in union yesterday. 3,5,7,10, and 15 yards. Timed but nothing crazy. Holstered, fire 5, mag change, reholster, fire five more, clear and holster. Same at each distance. Were super friendly. FBI q target. Hoping that since they’re listed on state police website for qualifications I won’t run into any issues. They even list the state code that this qual satisfies on the paperwork. Handed completed app in at lunch today in Mt. Laurel. They were super friendly as always. They said once fingerprints are back the chief will approve asap. After that it’s out of their hands. Going for fingerprinting tomorrow. Have to go to Philly as their were no appointments available in a 50 mile radius to me in nj for a month. Sucks but whatever. Trying to get this done asap before they move the goal post on us. Fingers crossed. 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, ToddD said: Went to rtsp in union yesterday. 3,5,7,10, and 15 yards. Timed but nothing crazy. Holstered, fire 5, mag change, reholster, fire five more, clear and holster. Same at each distance. Were super friendly. FBI q target. Hoping that since they’re listed on state police website for qualifications I won’t run into any issues. They even list the state code that this qual satisfies on the paperwork. Handed completed app in at lunch today in Mt. Laurel. They were super friendly as always. They said once fingerprints are back the chief will approve asap. After that it’s out of their hands. Going for fingerprinting tomorrow. Have to go to Philly as their were no appointments available in a 50 mile radius to me in nj for a month. Sucks but whatever. Trying to get this done asap before they move the goal post on us. Fingers crossed. which one of these threads had the link to that site again? the state list that is? i'm set up to take qualifications this weekend with a trainer i've shot with over the last 4 or 5 years...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: which one of these threads had the link to that site again? the state list that is? i'm set up to take qualifications this weekend with a trainer i've shot with over the last 4 or 5 years...... Looking for this ? https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/shooting-ranges.shtml Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 7, 2022 Shooters info is on their Facebook page Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shortfuse 39 Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, ShootersShooter said: Shooters info is on their Facebook page Thank You SS got it. Does anyone know the procedure for adding a pistol after the initial qualifier I purchased a pistol and I'm waiting on the Permits I have another carry gun I can qualify with but would probably prefer to carry the pistol I'm waiting on. Also does Shooters qualifier start at 25 yrds like some of the other ranges Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 7, 2022 At Shooters you bring the guns you want beside your qualifier and they add to the certificate form. Lines for 4 firearms. I qualified with my Shield Plus 9mm , added Bersa Thunder .380 and Ruger LCPll .380. The instructor wasn't sure if between the time 1st issued and renewal it would be possible to add one to the permit. I had asked because I have another 9mm ordered & not received yet that I would have added. You fill in Brand, Model and caliber, and add the serial numbers as he reads them off the firearm to you. Then he signs and dates your registration form and gives you a copy. Took me longer to type this than completing the form. Paul, retired SPO did not require 25 yards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted July 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, ShootersShooter said: At Shooters you bring the guns you want beside your qualifier and they add to the certificate form. Lines for 4 firearms. I qualified with my Shield Plus 9mm , added Bersa Thunder .380 and Ruger LCPll .380. The instructor wasn't sure if between the time 1st issued and renewal it would be possible to add one to the permit. I had asked because I have another 9mm ordered & not received yet that I would have added. You fill in Brand, Model and caliber, and add the serial numbers as he reads them off the firearm to you. Then he signs and dates your registration form and gives you a copy. Took me longer to type this than completing the form. Paul, retired SPO did not require 25 yards. Interesting. So you shot the qual (successfully) with one pistol and they then added the rest to the list? Was there an extra charge for this or just a flat fee for the qual? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 7, 2022 No extra charge. 80%(24/30) in a FBI Q target 5, 7.5 and 10 yards, 10 rounds at each distance to qualify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 7, 2022 The Instructor signing the qual paper supposedly have some discretion as to signing off on "similar" firearms using one qual shooting. Spirit of the requirement is to ensure the applicant is familiar and competent with the firearm they are carrying. Are all striker fired pistols are same ? Up to the Instructor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtors 333 Posted July 8, 2022 Tag for updates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 11:42 AM, ShootersShooter said: I just qualified at Shooters Sporting Center, standard FBI-Q target 30 rounds, 10 ea. 5-7.5-10 yards, only need an 80% to pass. Heavy fiber board targets, couldn't bring it home, but I had a 6" spread, no reload drill, no support hand shooting. Conducted by retired State Police Officer. I'm scheduled there later this month...Is there any shooting from the draw start position? Edit, never mind I noticed you answered another poster on this...thx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted July 8, 2022 21 hours ago, ShootersShooter said: At Shooters you bring the guns you want beside your qualifier and they add to the certificate form. Lines for 4 firearms. I qualified with my Shield Plus 9mm , added Bersa Thunder .380 and Ruger LCPll .380. The instructor wasn't sure if between the time 1st issued and renewal it would be possible to add one to the permit. I had asked because I have another 9mm ordered & not received yet that I would have added. You fill in Brand, Model and caliber, and add the serial numbers as he reads them off the firearm to you. Then he signs and dates your registration form and gives you a copy. Took me longer to type this than completing the form. Paul, retired SPO did not require 25 yards. Are they savvy enough to know that the serial number is on the frame and not the slide/barrel? ...The reason I ask, I have a Walther PPQ in 9mm which after I had it for a while I updated the slide/barrel (perfectly legal without a permit), but both the slide and barrel have a number on it (European manufacture do this) which of course doesn't match the one on the frame of the gun/or my original permit. These numbers on the slide/barrel have nothing to do with the legal serial number of the firearm. (I'll be qualifying at Shooters later this month.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 8, 2022 They are some of the most knowledgeable staff I have ever dealt with. Class act all the way, constantly in touch with the latest updates. Yes, they know where to find SSN's. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted July 8, 2022 Thank you SS, gives me peace of mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted July 8, 2022 22 hours ago, ShootersShooter said: At Shooters you bring the guns you want beside your qualifier and they add to the certificate form. Lines for 4 firearms. I qualified with my Shield Plus 9mm , added Bersa Thunder .380 and Ruger LCPll .380. The instructor wasn't sure if between the time 1st issued and renewal it would be possible to add one to the permit. I had asked because I have another 9mm ordered & not received yet that I would have added. You fill in Brand, Model and caliber, and add the serial numbers as he reads them off the firearm to you. Then he signs and dates your registration form and gives you a copy. Took me longer to type this than completing the form. Paul, retired SPO did not require 25 yards. Thanks again, last "dumb" question...Did they let you keep your other guns with you in the shooting booth while you were shooting the qualification, or did they make you store them in another room/area? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted July 8, 2022 I had them all in my bag, the bag went into the range with me. The only gun out was the one I qualified with. Only time they were out was when the instructor recorded the SSN's after everyone qualified. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted July 8, 2022 56 minutes ago, ShootersShooter said: I had them all in my bag, the bag went into the range with me. The only gun out was the one I qualified with. Only time they were out was when the instructor recorded the SSN's after everyone qualified. Thanks, good to know...My military "programming" is happy now :-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 9, 2022 I see lot of discussion around type of quals from different ranges, spending more money on "preparing", training etc. My experience has been that the quals offered by various ranges as of now are NOT difficult to pass. Barring edge cases, improperly maintained firearm or shooter disabilities, most of these quals do not require any preparation. So my suggestion is not to waste any more money (on training, prepping etc) than absolutely necessary. Again, just my personal opinion. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtors 333 Posted July 9, 2022 Related to the qualification thread. Found this over at ARFCOM. NJ law says the following: 2021 New Jersey Revised Statutes Title 2C - The New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice Section 2C:58-4 - Permits to carry handguns. Universal Citation: NJ Rev Stat § 2C:58-4 (2021) 2C:58-4 Permits to carry handguns. 2C:58-4. a. Scope and duration of authority. Any person who holds a valid permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to this section shall be authorized to carry a handgun in all parts of this State, except as prohibited by subsection e. of N.J.S.2C:39-5. One permit shall be sufficient for all handguns owned by the holder thereof, but the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual and legal holder of the permit. This says to me, qualify with whatever you want and carry whatever you want so long as you legally own them. And you can't carry someone else's handgun. Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJack 138 Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Xtors said: Related to the qualification thread. Found this over at ARFCOM. NJ law says the following: .. One permit shall be sufficient for all handguns owned by the holder thereof, but the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual and legal holder of the permit. This says to me, qualify with whatever you want and carry whatever you want so long as you legally own them. And you can't carry someone else's handgun. Thoughts? Legal Eagles can interpret that different ways. But, personally, that will be least of our worries for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,662 Posted July 9, 2022 4 hours ago, CJack said: So my suggestion is not to waste any more money (on training, prepping etc) than absolutely necessary. Again, just my personal opinion. Good luck. This is some of the worst advice I have ever seen on this forum. Money and time spent on a high stakes life saving defensive skill with abilities that degrade quickly without regular sustainment training is never, ever a waste. It’s not enough to just meet the minimum. We should always strive to improve. Always be a student. Be good Stay safe Get training Be an asset, not a liability. 9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites