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1 hour ago, pho3nix said:

I read NJ adopted the same lame 'everywhere is restricted ' policy NY did. While the NY one is already under challenge and will impact NJ like bruen did, what is the charge for carrying in a place (like a private business, not a courthouse)?

 

AFAIK NJ has not adopted the same carry restrictions NY has.  I've seen no legislation stating this.

Murphy is waiting to see what Hochul gets away with before he moves just as he followed Cuomo's lead during COVID.  Murphy has no idea what he's doing aside from party agendas.

NY has sensitive and restricted areas.  Sensitive areas include bars, entertainment venues, schools, etc.  If you have a NY carry permit you can't carry in theses places.  If you're carrying under LEOSA you can.  The most ridiculous restriction is Times Square (the area to be defined by the mayor).

NY has restricted places.  These include all places that don't have a "guns welcome" sign. Contrary to the rest of the country that requires a "no guns" sign.  The only people that can carry in restricted areas are active NYS LEOs (and Feds who are not subject to state law).  If a retired LEO goes into a bodega to buy an empanada that's a felony.

Many of the NYS restrictions will be found  unconstitutional IMO..

Currently the only places restricted in NJ by statute are courthouses and schools.

Murphy feels screwed as the state lost a lawsuit where they didn't fully recognize LEOSA. NJ took the attitude we don't have to recognize Federal law.  And they lost.

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7 hours ago, GRIZ said:

Currently the only places restricted in NJ by statute are courthouses and schools.

That's all I can find in the statutes too.

However, there is this part of the Admin Code:

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N.J.A.C. 7:2-2.17

NJ - New Jersey Administrative Code

TITLE 7. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

CHAPTER 2. STATE PARK SERVICE CODE

SUBCHAPTER 2. GENERAL USE

 

§ 7:2-2.17 Target practice, firearms, and fireworks

(a) A person shall not engage in target practice with any type firearm or bow and arrow on State Park Service property, except with written permission of the Director of the Division of Parks and Forestry or Assistant Director of the Division for the State Park Service.

(b) A person shall not possess or discharge any firearm, pellet gun, paint gun, air soft gun, bow and arrow, slingshot or other weapon capable of injuring persons or wildlife while on State Park Service property without the specific approval of the Superintendent or designee. Hunters in compliance with the rules of the Division of Fish, Game and Wildlife and this chapter are excepted.

(c) A person shall not possess, or discharge or cause to be discharged any fireworks, firecrackers, explosives, torpedoes, rockets, or other substances which could be harmful to persons without the specific approval of the Director of the Division of Parks and Forestry or the Assistant Director of the Division for the State Park Service.

I'm clueless about how this is enforceable without a statute or what the penalty would be.

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1 hour ago, Mr.Stu said:

That's all I can find in the statutes too.

However, there is this part of the Admin Code:

I'm clueless about how this is enforceable without a statute or what the penalty would be.

Casinos are restricted areas probably covered by the Admin Code too.

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