ShootersShooter 120 Posted December 5, 2022 I never testified but have for years kept in contact with elected officials on 2A issues. I agree 100% on getting and staying involved. When younger gun owners bemoan the fate of NJ 2a rights, I suggest it and relate my membership/support of advocacy groups, voting record and unfaltering commitment for over 50 years. Just stubborn, I guess. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc17 614 Posted December 5, 2022 In the last month I've sent three emails to all members of the Assembly. Each time I have gotten an estimated 6-12 automated replies and maybe 6-8 replies specific to my email. All of those have been on our side. Last week I sent an email to all Senators. I received two automated replies. Both from the same office. No others. Interesting to see the difference, not encouraging either. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 10,762 Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, kc17 said: In the last month I've sent three emails to all members of the Assembly. Each time I have gotten an estimated 6-12 automated replies and maybe 6-8 replies specific to my email. All of those have been on our side. Last week I sent an email to all Senators. I received two automated replies. Both from the same office. No others. Interesting to see the difference, not encouraging either. Keep hammering them. Daily. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,676 Posted December 5, 2022 Senate committee video stream is up and running, not discussing A4769 yet: https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/live-proceedings/media-player?committee=SBA&agendaDate=2022-12-05-12:00:00&agendaType=M&av=V 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,587 Posted December 5, 2022 The Moms are up front with their masks on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bomber 1,008 Posted December 5, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 7:29 AM, RichP said: I actually think he's looking at a presidential run in 2024. Reinstating the bear hunt, growing-out his hair, and slowly fixing his teeth leads me to believe that he's thinking about a national campaign (as funny as that all sounds). Oh definitely. If they can rig the vote to install a creature like Biden anything is possible now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,587 Posted December 5, 2022 Welp, it passed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 453 Posted December 5, 2022 Scumbags 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,676 Posted December 5, 2022 It's over, it passed the committee as expected. Full vote next on12/22, then Murphy's signature to become law. Merry Christmas! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 10,762 Posted December 5, 2022 It’s not ‘over’, it’s inconvenient for awhile after Bucky signs it. Once that happens, it won’t be long before it’s challenged. And overturned as unconstitutional. DO NOT STOP fighting. Now you need to financially support the organizations that are fighting the legal battles for you. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAHL 55 Posted December 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, CMJeepster said: Welp, it passed. It will now come up for a vote on Dec 22nd and I believe that it will pass but this bill is so bad that its very likely we will see an injunction from the 3rd circuit court of appeals in Philadelphia. When the bill passes the NRA/ANJRPC are already ready to challenge against the Bruen ruling that doesn't allow infringement on your RIGHT to keep and bear arms. BY NJ thumbing their nose at the Supreme Court this bill cannot and will not pass constitutional muster. The NJ politicians know this but instead just decide to try and take away your civil rights regardless. What an arrogant group the DemocRats are. They want to take away your rights, not protect your rights 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 453 Posted December 5, 2022 When they get sued "personally" for violating peoples constitutional rights then just maybe they will stop. I can't wait to see they cry like the bitches they are. We even have the luxury of paying their salary while they violate their own oath to up hold the Constitution. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawnmower2021 377 Posted December 5, 2022 Bleeeech! Well, I guess I should apply for some pistol permits while they're $2 a pop... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,607 Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Tunaman said: When they get sued "personally" for violating peoples constitutional rights then just maybe they will stop. I can't wait to see they cry like the bitches they are. We even have the luxury of paying their salary while they violate their own oath to up hold the Constitution. I'm pretty sure they also wrote laws saying that they are exempt from any court action for things they do in office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,003 Posted December 5, 2022 55 minutes ago, Mr.Stu said: I'm pretty sure they also wrote laws saying that they are exempt from any court action for things they do in office. But certainly NOT their Oath of Office in which they specifically swear to uphold the Constitution, which in the case of this bill they are NOT doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted December 6, 2022 Two emails with multiple recipients will work, one to thank those who helped with "No" votes, and one reminding the "Yes" voters they face re-election next year and their disregard of our rights will not be forgotten. The roll call committee vote on the bill went like this: Roll Call Sarlo, Paul A. (P) - Yes Cruz-Perez, Nilsa I. - Yes Diegnan, Patrick J. - Yes Greenstein, Linda R. - Yes Johnson, Gordon M. - Yes O'Scanlon, Declan J. - No Oroho, Steven V. - No Ruiz, M. Teresa - Yes Scutari, Nicholas P. - Yes Testa, Michael L. - No Thompson, Samuel D. - No Zwicker, Andrew - Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 215 Posted December 6, 2022 So basically along party lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 3,982 Posted December 6, 2022 do we really think they care if we email them reminding them that they're up for re-election? first off, we're well outnumbered by stupid people.....or they wouldn't be there in the first place. secondly......the fix is in. 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,587 Posted December 6, 2022 How can Scutari vote when he wasn't present? Mail-in ballot? Oh, wait... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike77 169 Posted December 6, 2022 How does it work once signed. Is effective date immediately? Do they set a date? How do they notify ppl who dont sit on forums?! Or don't they care? Cant just make a law and catch ppl unknowingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,587 Posted December 6, 2022 It's Time to Admit It: The Democrats' Gun Control Laws Are Racist | Opinion (msn.com) 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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DirtyDigz 1,676 Posted December 6, 2022 https://bearingarms.com/john-petrolino/2022/12/06/nj-pba-on-the-naughty-or-nice-list-this-year-n64961 Quote ...While I’m not going to say anything disrespectful about the millions of rank and file police officers that serve the country at large across the nation, as I know not all of them have the same view that Colligan has, I will say that Colligan is clearly an elitist pig. Colligan supports the usurpation of the New Jersey citizen’s right to carry and clearly wants to keep a class system in place. Further, by supporting this bill, Colligan supports the same racist policies and Jim Crow laws that have kept firearms out of the hands of Blacks since the reparation era in the United States. ... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShootersShooter 120 Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, 1LtCAP said: do we really think they care if we email them reminding them that they're up for re-election? first off, we're well outnumbered by stupid people.....or they wouldn't be there in the first place. secondly......the fix is in. You remind them we're paying attention, then work to attract the moderates who still believe in a Bill of Rights and the unaffiliated non-party voters who can think for themselves. Work to expand the voter base instead of quitting or alienating those not in lock-step with the arrogant Democratic Party members. I've done it for over 50 years and won't stop now, others a lot younger will benefit more than I will but it's worth the effort. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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CMJeepster 2,587 Posted December 6, 2022 "They" make the rules and "they" don't follow them and will never be held accountable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M1152 712 Posted December 6, 2022 fast forward to the 0:43:25 mark https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/archived-media/2022/SBA-meeting-list/media-player?committee=SBA&agendaDate=2022-12-05-12:00:00&agendaType=M&av=V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,587 Posted December 6, 2022 56 minutes ago, M1152 said: fast forward to the 0:43:25 mark https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/archived-media/2022/SBA-meeting-list/media-player?committee=SBA&agendaDate=2022-12-05-12:00:00&agendaType=M&av=V My bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites