CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 31, 2023 Federal Judge Partially Restrains New Jersey’s ‘Unconstitutional’ Concealed Carry Law For Second Time (msn.com) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fring Spield 1 Posted January 31, 2023 Thankfully, after Bruen, the Presiding Officers intent to "provide perspective on the critical public health, safety and welfare issues that led the Legislature to enact Chapter 131.” means jack. The days of interest balancing are over in 2A issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted January 31, 2023 I’d love to watch the NJ politicians get smacked down by Judge Bumb. You can’t put a price on such entertainment. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted January 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Fring Spield said: Thankfully, after Bruen, the Presiding Officers intent to "provide perspective on the critical public health, safety and welfare issues that led the Legislature to enact Chapter 131.” means jack. The days of interest balancing are over in 2A issues. NJ: Our law is rooted in history and tradition. We wouldn't have passed this law without it. Judge: Show me NJ: Fuck... 2 6 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g17owner 137 Posted January 31, 2023 57 minutes ago, EngineerJet said: NJ: Our law is rooted in history and tradition. We wouldn't have passed this law without it. Judge: Show me NJ: Fuck... That's it in a nutshell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted January 31, 2023 And the hits keep on coming!: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, DirtyDigz said: And the hits keep on coming!: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf May the smackdowns continue! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: May the smackdowns continue! From your keyboard to God's ears! 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moutinas 59 Posted January 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, DirtyDigz said: And the hits keep on coming!: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf Wait, what? Does our distinguished governor realize the fellow he praised is the same supposed right wing judge that slapped NJ down? I had to double check the last name, how can Judge Quraishi be the same guy? Wow, talk about egg on the governor's face, ha. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Moutinas said: Wait, what? Does our distinguished governor realize the fellow he praised is the same supposed right wing judge that slapped NJ down? I had to double check the last name, how can Judge Quraishi be the same guy? Wow, talk about egg on the governor's face, ha. That's above his pay grade! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almiz111 26 Posted January 31, 2023 Anybody know? 1. What exactly does the State Park thing mean? NJAC7:2-2.17(b). Carry or not? 2. Can I conceal carry at a WMA? (Yes no handgun shooting there.) Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, DirtyDigz said: And the hits keep on coming!: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf And now here's the response whining: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/31/judge-new-jersey-law-gun-industry-00080467 Quote A spokesperson for Murphy said the governor was “disappointed” by Tuesday’s order, but is “confident that this decision will be swiftly reversed on appeal.” In a strongly-worded statement, Platkin called the decision “unprecedented.” “The district court’s decision enjoining New Jersey’s public nuisance law is unprecedented and unsupportable,” Platkin said. “The New Jersey Legislature acted lawfully when it adopted public nuisance legislation to hold the gun industry accountable, and nothing in federal law allows firearms manufacturers to violate our state statutes with impunity. Another district court already rejected the exact same arguments put forth by the gun industry last year, and we look forward to swiftly appealing this misguided, outlier decision. We will always put public safety ahead of the profits of the gun industry.” At least they didn't call the judge "radical right wing" this time... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted January 31, 2023 Platkin doesn’t know what the word ‘unprecedented’ means. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted February 1, 2023 Updated CC locations post with the handy dandy chart given to us by the ANJRPC 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted February 1, 2023 "Ask Gov. Murphy" aired last night, and he took a question on the TRO's, said they'll appeal and urged private property owners to put up "no guns allowed" signs: 25:32 - 28:53 https://westchester.news12.com/ask-gov-murphy-jan-31-2023 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moutinas 59 Posted February 1, 2023 So our governor is is encouraging people to post gun free zone signs. The first person who is robbed or worse at gunpoint will wonder why his sign was not honored, hmmmmm. Maybe we should pass a law removing qualified immunity for stupid advice offered by state officials so people can drag politicians into court. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,793 Posted February 1, 2023 Murphy's expression the moment he was asked about the TRO: 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said: "Ask Gov. Murphy" aired last night, and he took a question on the TRO's, said they'll appeal and urged private property owners to put up "no guns allowed" signs: 25:32 - 28:53 https://westchester.news12.com/ask-gov-murphy-jan-31-2023 see? this is one of the places where our so-called republican representatives need to jump in. it's fine if he wants to encourage property owners to put those signs up. and they're free to put them up. if they DO so choose to disallow firearms on their property(business and/or personal), then there should be a new law(i just puked a little typing that) that those property owners MUST provide FREE and secure storage for our firearms while we are there storage that only we as the firearm owner will have access to upon leaving their business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said: "Ask Gov. Murphy" aired last night, and he took a question on the TRO's, said they'll appeal and urged private property owners to put up "no guns allowed" signs: 25:32 - 28:53 https://westchester.news12.com/ask-gov-murphy-jan-31-2023 and on this note, why didn't anyone call in and ask the governor why exactly he thought that vetted law abiding citizens were a/the problem? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DirtyDigz said: Murphy's expression the moment he was asked about the TRO: I can't decide if I: 1. Print this on rolls of toilet paper; 2. Make a door mat of it; 3. Print it large scale and take it to the range. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,848 Posted February 1, 2023 Or remind him that his previous assessment was that Constitutional issues were 'above his pay grade'. So STFU. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted February 1, 2023 Is it legal for Murphy to ‘encourage’ businesses to post NO GUNS signs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Displaced Texan said: Is it legal for Murphy to ‘encourage’ businesses to post NO GUNS signs? Does it actually matter if it isn't? Is someone gonna file a lawsuit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Fawkesguy said: Does it actually matter if it isn't? Is someone gonna file a lawsuit? I thought I remembered Judge Bumb saying something to Cai about that in the hearing… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Moutinas said: Maybe we should pass a law removing qualified immunity for stupid advice offered by state officials so people can drag politicians into court. There should be harsh criminal and civil liability on property owners for any firearm related death or injury that occurs in a "gun free" zone. If a property owner is going to enforce that, the owner then has a duty to protect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Displaced Texan said: I thought I remembered Judge Bumb saying something to Cai about that in the hearing… Yeah, it was something like the state should say "may post a sign" as opposed to "should post a sign". No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion. This *is* NJ, ya know. 3 minutes ago, YankeeSC said: There should be harsh criminal and civil liability on property owners for any firearm related death or injury that occurs in a "gun free" zone. If a property owner is going to enforce that, the owner then has a duty to protect. We "should" also have constitutional carry, but oh well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,653 Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fawkesguy said: Yeah, it was something like the state should say "may post a sign" as opposed to "should post a sign". No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion. This *is* NJ, ya know. I think you’re right..I knew I remembered something about it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fawkesguy said: No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion letting them decide for themselves. FIFY 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moutinas 59 Posted February 1, 2023 President Obama had a similar Constitutional disconnect. Not sure if it's ignorance or worse. They may know then subtly lie to the low information public. The President famously said the Constitution gives citizens rights. We all know that is not true. Our God given rights predate the USA, the founding documents and all the Amendments protect these rights. It's a fine point but makes a huge difference. When the powers gives you something, they can take it away which would be any tyrant's preference. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Moutinas said: President Obama had a similar Constitutional disconnect. Not sure if it's ignorance or worse. They may know then subtly lie to the low information public. The President famously said the Constitution gives citizens rights. We all know that is not true. Our God given rights predate the USA, the founding documents and all the Amendments protect these rights. It's a fine point but makes a huge difference. When the powers gives you something, they can take it away which would be any tyrant's preference. Yep. That's why I have that link in my signature. It's a great article that explains rights quite clearly. https://www.backwoodshome.com/we-dont-need-no-steenking-2nd-amendment/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites