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Hello all,

Some opinions please.  I am a long time NJ resident and also a resident in SC.  I spend 8 months out of the year in NJ out of necessity.  When I leave NJ I carry everywhere as I have multiple CWP's.  I have purchased many pistols legally in NJ over the years.

I was thinking about getting some new permits to pee...(my term for the Pistol Permit) but with all the BS that had been going on I was thinking about refraining.

I also have completed all the NJ CWP permit applications, but I am not sure I am actually going to apply.  I don't need to put up with the NJ BS.  To me it's insulting.  Plus with all the restrictions coming and being tied up in the courts for probably years, it may be just a futile exercise.   I would rather just leave when my house is build in SC and buy it there.  Once I switch my license to SC, its cash and carry for me.

I have the old, non-expiring FID.  What I do not want to happen is if I go apply for new permits to pee, that my FID gets converted to an expiring one and then I have to pay a renewal fee.   

I did read the new regs and it looks like they are grandfathering old FID folks to the non expiring one but this is NJ...what is written in law is usually ignored by the class warfare system we have here and the horrible mentality and attitude of some of these LEO's and NJSP officers that think their personal bias is important and the sneers you get when you go pay the $2.

Am I being paranoid?

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IANAL, but I have not heard anything about the act of applying for more "pee"s(lol) triggering your existing FID needing to become one of the new expiring ones. So I would proceed and apply for your additional pees. Then again, if your SC house is going to be finished within a reasonable timeframe, why not just wait until you officially move out of this god forsaken state and not have to deal with any of this bullshit.

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On 10/15/2022 at 12:10 PM, dman2112 said:

Hello all,

Some opinions please.  I am a long time NJ resident and also a resident in SC.  I spend 8 months out of the year in NJ out of necessity.  When I leave NJ I carry everywhere as I have multiple CWP's.  I have purchased many pistols legally in NJ over the years.

I was thinking about getting some new permits to pee...(my term for the Pistol Permit) but with all the BS that had been going on I was thinking about refraining.

I also have completed all the NJ CWP permit applications, but I am not sure I am actually going to apply.  I don't need to put up with the NJ BS.  To me it's insulting.  Plus with all the restrictions coming and being tied up in the courts for probably years, it may be just a futile exercise.   I would rather just leave when my house is build in SC and buy it there.  Once I switch my license to SC, its cash and carry for me.

I have the old, non-expiring FID.  What I do not want to happen is if I go apply for new permits to pee, that my FID gets converted to an expiring one and then I have to pay a renewal fee.   

I did read the new regs and it looks like they are grandfathering old FID folks to the non expiring one but this is NJ...what is written in law is usually ignored by the class warfare system we have here and the horrible mentality and attitude of some of these LEO's and NJSP officers that think their personal bias is important and the sneers you get when you go pay the $2.

Am I being paranoid?

Yes you are being paranoid.  If you have an old school FID its good forever, you don't get converted to the new one even when you submit for additional P2P's.

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3 minutes ago, NorthernYankee said:

Yes you are being paranoid.  If you have an old school FID its good forever, you don't get converted to the new one even when you submit for additional P2P's.

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

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4 minutes ago, dman2112 said:

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

Yes, myself when I got 3 permits in July.  Do what you feel comfortable with.

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2 hours ago, dman2112 said:

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

I just got 3 permits myself. I asked the FFL which one he wanted and they took the yellow card. You're overthinking this and making it more work than it needs to be. Keep using the yellow one.  my E-FID has no exp date on it either. 

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Yup, overthinkin it. The prices on stuff are just gona keep going up, even guns. Buy stuff now. 

Buy it from the Elmer gun company llc in upper Deerfield, cheapest prices in the state. 856-364-1031 

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11 hours ago, dman2112 said:

You seem confident...Can you cite a recent example?  I have an example of someone applied for P2P and when they got approved his FID was also updated as an E-FID.  He downloaded it and it had a 10 year expire

I believe the 10 year limit on the ID card with firearms training now needed for renewal was changed/started this year.  Apparently they initially wanted to make it. 4 year ID card but didn't have the votes for that.

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1 hour ago, dman2112 said:

Hi. I appreciate the response but I’m not sure you Understood my concern. Your experience validated my concern. I understand the difference between the two very well. 

Not sure what your concern is, they just digitized my FPID for their FARS system. Not a bad thing because I don't need to carry it anymore if I want to stop in a store, it's also moot now if I lose it since I won't have to apply for a duplicate. 

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I never check mine since I printed it the first time I got the e FID and took a picture of it, but just did now. I applied for 3 p2p the second week of august and was approved the end of September, My e FID has no experation and no renewal fee attached. 

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