Cheflife15 455 Posted November 24, 2022 I'm looking for a nice optic for my rifle. Most of my shooting will be within 50 yards but I would love the option of going further. I'm debating between the following but after jumping down the rabbit hole I can't decide. I'm debating between the following Trijicon TA31F. aimpoint duty or pro and magnifier. Eotech and magnifier. any insight is welcome i want something that is bomb proof and my budget is 1000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,682 Posted November 24, 2022 Just out of curiosity what will you be mounting this optic on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 Daniel defense ddm4v7. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,662 Posted November 25, 2022 All you need is a red dot sight. I’d get a T2 and call it a day. Magnification does not help you shoot better. It only helps you see better. A plain unmagnified red dot sight is good out to 300 yards with just a little practice. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 I was in the middle of typing a response, but High Exposure summed it up quicker than I could. T2 with a 50/200 yard zero. You’ll be within 4” or so of POA from 0-200 yards, and drop to 300 from there is only a few inches. I have 6-7 ACOGS…while they are fantastic, I think a good quality red dot is much more practical. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,682 Posted November 25, 2022 Do you have any issues with your eyes. If you have a astigmatism you will not be happy with the red dot. jmho 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 No issues with my eyes By the way happy Thanksgiving every one!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 Found a good deal on the aimpoint H2. Comparisons seem they're very similar. Any opinions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 I think the H2 is the non NVG compatible, and slightly less rugged version of the T2. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,662 Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: Found a good deal on the aimpoint H2. Comparisons seem they're very similar. Any opinions? Buy with confidence. H2 will do everything you need unless you’re a Rangerdeltaseal. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted November 25, 2022 Just don't get suckered into a h1 or t1 with the cheaper price. But yea T2 all day, H2 if you want to save a little and don't need NVG. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 On LaRues site, the price difference between a H2 and a T2 is less than $100, and it includes your choice of LaRues excellent mounts. https://www.larue.com/category/optic-combos/red-dot-combos/aimpoint/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 I picked up a scallerworks mount as I heard they're pretty awesome. Trying to keep the rifle as light as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted November 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cheflife15 said: I picked up a scallerworks mount as I heard they're pretty awesome. Trying to keep the rifle as light as possible. When they had them in stock, their mount+optic buddles were the best priced. I think I paid 800 for mount and t2. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 Couldn’t resist adding some T2 goodness to this thread. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,682 Posted November 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: Couldn’t resist adding some T2 goodness to this thread. What rifle is that it doesn't appear to be a AR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, silverado427 said: What rifle is that it doesn't appear to be a AR Steyr AUG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 Any suggestions for a decent magnifier. I don't want to skimp but I don't see myself investing as much money into it. Is $300 a decent starting point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 On 11/24/2022 at 6:19 PM, High Exposure said: All you need is a red dot sight. I’d get a T2 and call it a day. Magnification does not help you shoot better. It only helps you see better. A plain unmagnified red dot sight is good out to 300 yards with just a little practice. 7 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: Any suggestions for a decent magnifier. I don't want to skimp but I don't see myself investing as much money into it. Is $300 a decent starting point? See High Exposures post above. If you really feel you NEED magnification, and you want to keep your rifle light, IMHO, you might as well go with a magnified optic in the first place. Magnifiers, and associated flip aside mounts for them, aren’t exactly light. For your stated purpose, I’d probably stick to just the H2. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: See High Exposures post above. If you really feel you NEED magnification, and you want to keep your rifle light, IMHO, you might as well go with a magnified optic in the first place. Magnifiers, and associated flip aside mounts for them, aren’t exactly light in the first place. For your stated purpose, I’d probably stick to just the H2. Yeah this makes sense. I think I wanted a magnifier just for the sake of it. After seeing how much some weigh I'll stick with the red dot only. Thank you all for your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cheflife15 said: Yeah this makes sense. I think I wanted a magnifier just for the sake of it. After seeing how much some weigh I'll stick with the red dot only. Thank you all for your help! I’ll make you an offer…. I have an ACOG that doesn’t currently have a home. If you want to try it, I’ll loan it to you to see if you like it. I’m currently using it to spot deer in my backyard. No obligation at all, other than covering shipping both ways. It’s a 4x32 model, so you can see if you want or NEED magnification. Clamp it on your rifle, and take it to the range and check it out. Let me know if you want to borrow it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Displaced Texan said: I’ll make you an offer…. I have an ACOG that doesn’t currently have a home. If you want to try it, I’ll loan it to you to see if you like it. I’m currently using it to spot deer in my backyard. No obligation at all, other than covering shipping both ways. It’s a 4x32 model, so you can see if you want or NEED magnification. Clamp it on your rifle, and take it to the range and check it out. Let me know if you want to borrow it. That's an extremely generous offer. I'll probably regret this but after purchasing the red dot I'm going to commit to it for a while. I have a baby coming in 7 months so this was my last fun expense for a while. Thank you very much though! I think the red dot was the right call. Most of my shooting is 50 yards or less at old bridge rifle club. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cheflife15 said: That's an extremely generous offer. I'll probably regret this but after purchasing the red dot I'm going to commit to it for a while. I have a baby coming in 7 months so this was my last fun expense for a while. Thank you very much though! I think the red dot was the right call. Most of my shooting is 50 yards or less at old bridge rifle club. Fair enough, just thought I’d extend the offer. I haven’t built the rifle it was going to reside on yet, so it’s sitting around. FWIW I think the red dot is the right call for you as well. Should you decide you want to try it, let me know. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellasdaddy 31 Posted January 8, 2023 On 11/24/2022 at 7:19 PM, High Exposure said: All you need is a red dot sight. I’d get a T2 and call it a day. Magnification does not help you shoot better. It only helps you see better. A plain unmagnified red dot sight is good out to 300 yards with just a little practice. Unless he is using NV - then probably an H2. A lot less with the same functions except NV capability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,662 Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Bellasdaddy said: Unless he is using NV - then probably an H2. A lot less with the same functions except NV capability. Absolutely. Also, after having some time on one, I’d say the Aimpoint Duty RDS is a good option for a “budget” micro Aimpoint optic. They are about $450-$500 vs $800-$875 for an H2. Just keep in mind the difference in height when buying mounts. An absolute T1/T2 mount will be a lower 1/3 mount with a Duty RDS. Aimpoint Pro is a good choice as well. With a little work, you can find them under $400 new and under $350 used. I just grabbed a used PRO for $300 a few months ago. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted January 8, 2023 I purchased the h2 as I don't see myself purchasing night vision. It's an amazing dot..I also purchased a cheap primary arms micro red dot thats fine as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,662 Posted January 8, 2023 Nice. I really like my T2. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 244 Posted January 8, 2023 Check out the video reviews of this 1-6X LVPO with ACSS Raptor first focal plane reticle. Primary Arms SLx 1-6x24mm FFP Rifle Scope - Illuminated ACSS-RAPTOR-5.56/.308 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted January 9, 2023 i went with a Burris elite 3200 scope, 4-12x with adjustable objective mounted on a pepr, and a Magpul Pro buis canted and flipup. Having the AO is nice with settings from 10 to 300+ yards, making the rotate from iron to scope fast. My other has a holosun 503bu (circle and dot), with optional qd mounted primary arms 5x. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites