CMJeepster 2,777 Posted December 7, 2022 Ban Of Firearms With High Capacity Magazines Weighed In PA (msn.com) This should be interesting to see what the residents of the state do when the idiots in Harrisburg try to take away their firearms. Personally, having grown up in PA and still having relatives there, I don't see any of them giving up ANYTHING. Legally, the right to bear arms is enshrined in the state constitution, so that's a major hurdle. The Constitution of Pennsylvania - PA General Assembly (state.pa.us) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,322 Posted December 7, 2022 Look who they elected Governor and Senator.....They deserve what they get now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,147 Posted December 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, CMJeepster said: Personally, having grown up in PA and still having relatives there, I don't see any of them giving up ANYTHING. PA gun culture revolves largely around deer hunting Fudds. The 2A faction of that culture is small. As long as they get to close shop and run out to their stands with a 30-30 lever or 30-06 bolt action, they won't put up much of a fight. PA gun owners will get mad as wet hens about it, but will just cluck cluck cluck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted December 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said: PA gun culture revolves largely around deer hunting Fudds. The 2A faction of that culture is small. As long as they get to close shop and run out to their stands with a 30-30 lever or 30-06 bolt action, they won't put up much of a fight. PA gun owners will get mad as wet hens about it, but will just cluck cluck cluck. And then you have my circle of friends who are all licensed to carry and have ARs and AKs in case they need them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dilbert1967 145 Posted December 7, 2022 PA has approximately 1.5 million CCW holders, behind Florida and Texas. https://crimeresearch.org/2022/11/concealed-carry-permit-holders-across-the-united-states-2021-2/ I don't see these people giving up their guns willingly. They are a formidable voting block to overcome. The Dems would have to start NOW writing down names of new voters, from cemeteries in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, to win upcoming elections to hang onto power. As someone has already mentioned, the 2nd Amendment is enshrined in their state constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted December 7, 2022 I used to think ‘fuck em, they got what they voted for’. Not anymore. I realized this is the wrong mindset. We are ALL under assault, no matter what state you live in. This is why I continue to call, email, write representatives in NJ, and send money to organizations like GOA, ANJRPC, and such. We need, as a whole, to keep in the fight for our god given second amendment rights, no matter what state you live in. Stand together with your brothers and sisters on ANY and all states and fight. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel 7,157 Posted December 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Displaced Texan said: I used to think ‘fuck em, they got what they voted for’. Not anymore. I realized this is the wrong mindset. We are ALL under assault, no matter what state you live in. This is why I continue to call, email, write representatives in NJ, and send money to organizations like GOA, ANJRPC, and such. I applaud that thinking... and couldn't agree more! Anti-2A efforts should be treated like cancer cells... you need to blitz them hard and fast at the point of origin... instead of sitting back and waiting while they spread to other sites. The people pushing the anti-2A stuff have very deep pockets, and plenty of useful idiots (MDA) all too happy to follow their direction... that's a potent combo and not to be underestimated. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Mrs. Peel said: Anti-2A efforts should be treated like cancer cells... you need to blitz them hard and fast at the point of origin... instead of sitting back and waiting while they spread to other sites. This X1000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted December 7, 2022 There are anti gun bills submitted on a yearly basis, usually by the same reps from Pittsburgh or Philadelphia, and they die in committee. Technically it shouldn't even make a difference now, but in January, the state house will have a 1 seat democrat majority. The senate is still a republican majority by 6 or 7 seats. That's not to say bad things can't happen in Pennsylvania like they did in Virginia a few years back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted December 9, 2022 Illinois is also getting deeper into the game: https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/witness-slips-stack-up-as-illinois-house-committee-set-to-debate-more-gun-restrictions-monday/article_18caab00-7729-11ed-9b84-47ec1ed8a10b.html No matter the state you live in, we all need to get into the fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted December 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Displaced Texan said: Illinois is also getting deeper into the game: https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/witness-slips-stack-up-as-illinois-house-committee-set-to-debate-more-gun-restrictions-monday/article_18caab00-7729-11ed-9b84-47ec1ed8a10b.html No matter the state you live in, we all need to get into the fight. How sad. The Roman Church in Illinois is as anti-gun as liberal protestant denominations. According to them, there is "easy access" to guns in Illinois. /Sigh/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted December 10, 2022 10 hours ago, father-of-three said: How sad. The Roman Church in Illinois is as anti-gun as liberal protestant denominations. According to them, there is "easy access" to guns in Illinois. /Sigh/ Not all churches are pro gun control. The trustees at my church, and a few other people are discussing passing a resolution to allow carry in our church when the new gun law passes and express permission is required. Waiting to see exactly what the law says before we act. Lots of churches and some denominations believe they are to control the people. A few believe they are to serve the people and trust their congregation as responsible adults. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted December 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, maintenanceguy said: Not all churches are pro gun control. The trustees at my church, and a few other people are discussing passing a resolution to allow carry in our church when the new gun law passes and express permission is required. Waiting to see exactly what the law says before we act. Lots of churches and some denominations believe they are to control the people. A few believe they are to serve the people and trust their congregation as responsible adults. I agree, but I didn't say all churches are anti-gun, just the liberal ones like Presbyterian church USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, father-of-three said: I agree, but I didn't say all churches are anti-gun, just the liberal ones like Presbyterian church USA. My wife used to work for the board of pension for Presbyterian church USA. OMG what a bunch of liberal assholes. It’s difficult to believe some of the shit that goes on there.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bellasdaddy 31 Posted December 12, 2022 Isnt there supposed to be a ruling in an appeals court to settle the magazine capacity debate? If Pennsylvania does move forward with this it, it will no doubt be vigorously challenged in PA and could ultimately settle the debate on a national scale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 859 Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Bellasdaddy said: If Pennsylvania does move forward with this it, it will no doubt be vigorously challenged in PA and could ultimately settle the debate on a national scale I hope you're right, but the realist in me thinks that politicians are ALWAYS looking to pass something meaningless to say they were "tough on guns" or passing "common sense gun laws". A vigorous challenge pales in comparison to political points... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
father-of-three 243 Posted December 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Bellasdaddy said: Isnt there supposed to be a ruling in an appeals court to settle the magazine capacity debate? If Pennsylvania does move forward with this it, it will no doubt be vigorously challenged in PA and could ultimately settle the debate on a national scale. That's hard to tell. The PA Supreme court leans left currently, so it may be up to the state senate to hold the line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,873 Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, father-of-three said: That's hard to tell. The PA Supreme court leans is leftist currently, so it may be up to the state senate to hold the line. Fixed that for you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,777 Posted December 16, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 1:14 PM, Displaced Texan said: Illinois is also getting deeper into the game: https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/witness-slips-stack-up-as-illinois-house-committee-set-to-debate-more-gun-restrictions-monday/article_18caab00-7729-11ed-9b84-47ec1ed8a10b.html No matter the state you live in, we all need to get into the fight. Semi-auto gun ban only part of solution, Illinois House told (msn.com) “To disarm the people would not save lives. ... Criminals do not follow laws,” Guadarrama said. ------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites