ESB 240 Posted December 20, 2022 The new unconstitutional NJ gun law is going to require a law suit to allow us to have our freedoms back. Which org is at the forefront of these court battles? ANJRPC, CNJFO, FPC, SAF, NRA, GOA, NJ2AS, FRAC etc? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,884 Posted December 20, 2022 Dan Schmutter, working for ANJRPC has a law suit ready to file the minute Murphy signs the bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M1152 713 Posted December 20, 2022 At the very least you should be supporting ANJRPC & CNJFO https://www.cnjfo.com/Donate https://www.anjrpc.org/donations/donate.asp?id=4356 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 472 Posted December 21, 2022 I give to CNJFO, the SAF, I joined the ANJRPC and donate when I can I also recently joined the Gun For Hire range as I was so impressed with anthony's support and 2A action. I don't think that there is any other range in NJ that is such a 2A activist. He should start selling franchises and open them all over NJ (the devils armpit ) I have never donated money to any cause before this, now is the time to cut the serpents head off. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted December 21, 2022 ANJRPC has been forefront in fighting for our rights here in NJ. CNJFO is the largest grassroots based 2A org in NJ and work hand in hand with ANJRPC and all of the other organizations to support and fight for our rights. (Disclaimer: I am a CNJFO Executive Board Member) We've funded Amicus Curiae (Amicus Briefs) for various lawsuits as well as adding our org as plaintiffs for various cases. We've supported Jay Factor's lawsuit recently, as well as the Cheeseman/Jillard case previously. SAF and GOA have also been active in supporting the various 2A cases here in NJ. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bklynracer 1,259 Posted December 21, 2022 Don't forget you can also donate the best way if all. Makes me feel good. You can use some of their money. Kinda. @Smokin .50 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted December 21, 2022 15 hours ago, ESB said: The new unconstitutional NJ gun law is going to require a law suit to allow us to have our freedoms back. Which org is at the forefront of these court battles? NRA, GOA, ANJRPC, FPC, etc? I've been sworn to secrecy in terms of releasing the particulars UNTIL the suit is filed--but I can say this: Attorney David Jensen (Jay Factor's and Mark Cheeseman's lawyer of record) already has a suit waiting to be filed before the ink is dry at the Bill signing "ceremony" Gov. Snaggletooth is sure to hold...and CNJFO along with others are the Plaintiffs. Can't be any more "at the forefront" than THAT! Rosey 6 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124gr9mm 857 Posted December 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, Smokin .50 said: I've been sworn to secrecy in terms of releasing the particulars UNTIL the suit is filed--but I can say this: Attorney David Jensen (Jay Factor's and Mark Cheeseman's lawyer of record) already has a suit waiting to be filed before the ink is dry at the Bill signing "ceremony" Gov. Snaggletooth is sure to hold...and CNJFO along with others are the Plaintiffs. Can't be any more "at the forefront" than THAT! Rosey It's horrible that this legislation is going to pass, but it's FANTASTIC that the counter-punch is prepped and ready... 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 8:18 PM, Bklynracer said: Don't forget you can also donate the best way if all. Makes me feel good. You can use some of their money. Kinda. @Smokin .50 How to Change Your AmazonSmile Charitable Organization - Amazon Customer Service You still have to remember to type smile.amazon.com instead of Amazon.com to use it though. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted December 22, 2022 Looks like ANJRPC has filed a suit and CNJFO/FPC/SAF/NJ2AS has joined and filed a 2nd suit. On 12/22/2022 at 12:10 PM, DirtyDigz said: Courtlistener links: ANJRPC suit "Siegel v. Platkin" https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66677439/siegel-v-platkin/ CNJFO/FPC/SAF/NJ2AS suit "Koons v. Reynolds": https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66677437/koons-v-reynolds/ 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted February 11, 2023 FRAC is fighting the ATF over the pistol brace ban. Home | Firearms Regulatory Accountability Coalition (fracaction.org) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted May 31, 2023 This is why it pays to be a member of these organizations and to donate. FPC members are covered by the injunction against the ATF's Pistol Brace rule while the FPC fights it in court for us. See below on how to join the FPC. On 5/26/2023 at 5:00 PM, Krdshrk said: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fifth-circuit-clarifies-that-its-injunction-against-atf-pistol-brace-rule-covers-fpc-s-members Become a member: https://www.firearmspolicy.org/ Just enter your email address and Zip code in the middle of the page. You do NOT need to click Join and donate at the top left - however it is very much recommended! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, ESB said: This is why it pays to be a member of these organizations and to donate. FPC members are covered by the injunction against the ATF's Pistol Brace rule while the FPC fights it in court for us. See below on how to join the FPC. Actually they just qualified their membership stuff a couple days ago - if you donate or join by end of day today, you are an official member backdated to before the Lawsuit.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted June 1, 2023 The send a card or paper as proof ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted June 1, 2023 10 hours ago, pjd832 said: The send a card or paper as proof ? It will be via email format Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted June 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: It will be via email format My buddy joined yesterday said all he got was a thank you for the money and a link to send more money… nothing saying he was a member by. XX/XX/XX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted June 2, 2023 11 hours ago, pjd832 said: My buddy joined yesterday said all he got was a thank you for the money and a link to send more money… nothing saying he was a member by. XX/XX/XX Read their statement. https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-statement-regarding-membership Quote FPC will update its membership records accordingly on or about June 1, 2023, and then send a message confirming the granted membership status to all such individuals by email as soon as possible. Be patient it's coming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Krdshrk said: Read their statement. https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-statement-regarding-membership Be patient it's coming. Ok I’ll let him know.. thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAHL 58 Posted March 3 I've reported this on another forum and it was promptly deleted. In short with the alleged misappropriation of membership dues and the abuse by CEO Wayne Lapierre I no longer support the NRA. Wayne Lapierre was receiving a $ 2 million salary and was taking lavish vacations, flying on private Jets and enjoying the high life on our membership dues. The board did nothing about this. Chartered as a charitable non-profit association , you decide if this was a proper way to run an association that supposed to exist for your 2nd amendment rights. Until they clean up their act they will never get another cent from myself. I am currently supporting ANJRPC and FPC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted March 12 Keep sending your monies to the NJ lawyers / Organizations who have been at best over the years, unsuccessful ....these organization are like money sponges that keep filing meaningless papers with the legal system...as I said, if it weren't for Thomas we here would be back to point Zero and after all these years and dollars / donations with little results.....it's time to address the real issue of 2A and not these concessions and deals that these organizations / lawyers keep making......meaningless.....omo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted March 13 19 hours ago, xXxplosive said: Keep sending your monies to the NJ lawyers / Organizations who have been at best over the years, unsuccessful ....these organization are like money sponges that keep filing meaningless papers with the legal system...as I said, if it weren't for Thomas we here would be back to point Zero and after all these years and dollars / donations with little results.....it's time to address the real issue of 2A and not these concessions and deals that these organizations / lawyers keep making......meaningless.....omo. All I can say is... stay tuned. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted March 13 still holdin' my breath............ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted March 18 On 3/12/2024 at 11:53 AM, xXxplosive said: Keep sending your monies to the NJ lawyers / Organizations who have been at best over the years, unsuccessful ....these organization are like money sponges that keep filing meaningless papers with the legal system...as I said, if it weren't for Thomas we here would be back to point Zero and after all these years and dollars / donations with little results.....it's time to address the real issue of 2A and not these concessions and deals that these organizations / lawyers keep making......meaningless.....omo. ANJRPC and NJCFO is the reason we can realistically carry in NJ. Otherwise NJ's Carry Killer law would be in full effect and we would not be able to carry in our cars or on any private property without getting express permission first. FPC and GOA is the reason we can have pistol brace's on our Others again. Support the orgs that are fighting and winning for our 2a rights. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 822 Posted March 18 I was fight'in the fight when you probably were in diapers.....attended the meetings back in 80's and '90 when the NRA called it on NJ...I was there....the monies thrown at these Orgs. over the years is rediculous IMO....with little to no results or merit....other than their self promotion, advertising their books and or ranges.....I repeat, if it weren't for Thomas we would be back to square one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted March 19 13 hours ago, xXxplosive said: I was fight'in the fight when you probably were in diapers.....attended the meetings back in 80's and '90 when the NRA called it on NJ...I was there....the monies thrown at these Orgs. over the years is rediculous IMO....with little to no results or merit....other than their self promotion, advertising their books and or ranges.....I repeat, if it weren't for Thomas we would be back to square one. So... 1) The CNJFO didn't exist back then. IT is currently operated by people who were just as angered by the dysfunctional spate of 2a advocacy groups NJ has been saddled with since the 91 AWB. There existence seems to have ushered in cooperation and coordination at both the state level and with national entities. 2) The ANJRPC isn't the turd of an organization it used to be. It genuinely seemed to exist solely to waste everyone's time while the NRA mothership used us to drive fundraising elsewhere. It seems to have moved away from that. Currently I give to those two groups locally, and to FPC, GOA, and SAF nationally. Although I have to say that SAF is on the bubble. They do good work, but are way too comfortable chipping away slowly at things on a single front. Basically I set aside the price of a case of ammo each year. Around Christmas they each get $25. Then hand out the rest of the funds as I see things I want to back and or fight. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites