ESB 240 Posted January 3, 2023 Looking for ideas for Get Home Bag/Bug Out Bags. What's in yours? What is a must have? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 3, 2023 Pork roll. 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 3, 2023 Seriously though, my bag at home is different from the one in my truck. The truck bag's purpose is to get home. The home bag's purpose is to get the 4 of us in the house out to our "spot." Both have the following items: First aid kit Bandanna Flashlight(s) with backup batteries H20 filtration Dried food Compas Camp knife Multi-tool Para chord Mylar Survival Blanket Plastic full-size (55 gallon) trash bag Multiple fire sources and hand sanitizer (for starting fires in damp / wet situations) Insect repellent Sunscreen Toilet paper Small Note Pad / Pencil Pepper spray Duct tape Fishing kit Small animal snare 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike77 169 Posted January 3, 2023 Never thought about this before..... What would you say is difference from get home / Bug Out? Recommendations for the Bag itself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 3:55 PM, Mike77 said: Never thought about this before..... What would you say is difference from get home / Bug Out? Get Home Bag would be if you are stranded and need to walk home or are stuck in your car for more than a day. Think of when 95 was shut down last year during snow storm and all those cars where stranded for more than a day without help. Imagine you ran out of gas during that, what would you need/want in that situation? Bug Out Bag is for when SHTF and you need to leave ASAP and get somewhere else because where you are is not safe or will not be safe soon. Some items/categories to consider: Clothing/PPE Food/Water/Fire Shelter/Warmth First Aid/Hygiene Communication Navigation Tools Protection I think your Bug Out Bag would need most of what is in a Get Home Bag, but also more protection as well as more long term food/water/shelter options? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted January 4, 2023 Good lists to get you started from CMJeepster and ESB. The GHB stays in your car, while the BOB stays in your home. In practicality, I have used the items in the GHB a great deal, while I have not ever used the BOB, and the likelihood is that I never will. There are lots of lists and videos online about how to prepare these. Do a quick search and you fill find plenty of info Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dajonga 396 Posted January 4, 2023 In my opinion, the "bugging out" concept only works if you have somewhere to go and the knowledge to survive once you get there. I have come to the conclusion that bugging out with my family in NJ is not realistic for me. At home, I have security, warmth and supplies. I was once on the road all over NJ. Now I just commute 25 mile each way to work. But I still carry lotsa stuff in my car everyday. My car stuff includes.... Water and nuts and jerky for me for several days if needed. I rotate these provisions several times a year. 2 full changes of clothes, including shoes. In winter, I carry long johns and an old coat. The ability to sleep in my car...camp pillow, space & cuddly blankets. The ability to make fire. The ability to stay dry if forced to leave car... poncho & tarp & paracord. The ability to dig and chop. Hygiene, medicines & 1st aid kit. A big ass backpack to carry all of this. If my travels permit, I have a long gun and ammo in my trunk. Once my PTC comes in, I will add a handgun to the mix. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 4, 2023 12 hours ago, ESB said: Get Home Bag would be if you are stranded and need to walk home or are stuck in your car for more than a day. Think of when 95 was shut down last year and all those cars where stranded for more than a day. Imagine you ran out of gas during that, what would you need/want in that situation? Bug Out Bag is for when SHTF and you need to leave ASAP and get somewhere else because where you are is not safe or will not be safe soon. Some items/categories to consider: Clothing/PPE Food/Water/Fire Shelter/Warmth First Aid/Hygene Communication Navigation Tools Protection I think your Bug Out Bag would need most of what is in a Get Home Bag, but also more protection as well as more long term food/water/shelter options? This. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, dajonga said: In my opinion, the "bugging out" concept only works if you have somewhere to go and the knowledge to survive once you get there. I have come to the conclusion that bugging out with my family in NJ is not realistic for me. At home, I have security, warmth and supplies. I'm in agreement with this. My first plan is to stay at home. The plan after that is to go to a relative's house. The option after that is to move to a local predetermined location where we can hunker down and live out as long as possible. The last option is exactly that. Should we need to go totally off-grid, we can last a while with the basics, but that's pretty much a Mad Max scenario. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,278 Posted January 4, 2023 18 hours ago, Mike77 said: Recommendations for the Bag itself? You'll want to be able to carry it hands-free, so I'd think any weatherproof backpack would be fine. A bigger one for the BOB. Have some free space available in either, in case you pick up anything useful along the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dajonga 396 Posted January 4, 2023 Keep this in mind......NJ is a peninsula, surrounded by water on 3 sides. If the shit ever really hit the fan.... Do you think PA is gonna let 7 million NJ residents across the Delaware? Hell no. Those bridges will be blocked or blown up. If you are in NJ during the end of times, you will not get out of NJ. The "Bug Out" concept works if you live in Idaho or Kansas and have somewhere to go. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted January 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, dajonga said: If the shit ever really hit the fan.... Do you think PA is gonna let 7 million NJ residents across the Delaware? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted January 5, 2023 Here is what I'm thinking for a Get Home Bag and start for a Bug Out Bag. Thoughts? CLOTHING/PPE Broken in boots or sneakers Merino wool socks Zip off technical hiking cargo pants Fleece sweatshirt Undershirt Underwear Military poncho Hat Winter Beenie Gloves Cotton orange bandana Neck gator Vented N95 mask Sunglasses w/case Earplugs Hand warmers SHELTER Lightweight sleeping bag SOL Escape Bivvy Survival Cord (550 paracord with tinder juke and fishing line inside) #36 bank line Guyline Cord adjusters Alum/TI tent stakes Military poncho (can be used as a rain fly/tarp) Large HD garbage bags (held together with ranger bands) Gorrila Tape (wrap this around as much stuff as possible to reduce wasted space) Sewing kit Deck of cards FIRE Fast Fire Stick Tinder Lighters (Bic and propane torch) Ferro Rod and striker Storm matches WATER 2L Camelbak Bladder Camelback Lifestraw filter Iodine drops/tablets Coffee filter Stainless nesting pot/bottle/cup Vitamin/Energy/Electrolyte water flavor packs Instant Coffee/Cocoa FOOD SOS 3600cal Emergency Ration Cliff Bars Granola Bars Caffeine gum HD Aluminum Foil FIRST AID/HYGIENE Nitrile Gloves SWAT-T Tourniquet Sharpie Emergency Trauma Dressing Gauze Steril Pads Medical Tape QuickClot Gauze BleedStop powder Trauma Sheers Tweezers Hyfin vented chest seal twin pack Various Bandaids Moleskin pads Crazy Glue Alcohol wipes Razor blade Space Blanket Burn Gel Splint Large Safety Pins Neosporin Pain/Itch/Bite Butt Wipes Hand Sanitizer (can also be used to start fire if high alcohol %) Camp Wash Shammy Advil Tylenol Aspirin Claritin/Allegra Pepto-Bismol Imodium Tums Vitamins Prescriptions/Medicine Contact lenses Contact lens case Contact solution Eye drops Sunscreen Bug repellant Tiny First Aid Guide NAVIGATION Maps Quality compass w/ mirror Ranger Beads Flashlight (USB rechargeable) Headlamp (USB rechargeable) Tiny LED reading light Glow Sticks/Chem Lights Tiny Survival Guide TOOLS/PROTECTION/HUNTING Survival Knife MultiTool EDC folding knife Pepper spray COMMUNICATION Baofeng 8W GMRS/FRS UHF/VHF FM 2-way radio Directions to use Baofeng radio Large USB Battery pack USB charging/data cables Headphones Whistle Mirror Orange Bandana Rainproof Notepad Mechanical Pencils Twin Tip Sharpie MISC $125 Cash (5 $20's, 5 $5's) in a money clip or ranger band Use Kiwi Camp Dry to waterproof items that need extra waterproof protection Basically looking for stuff that is lightweight, compact and multi-use when possible. I'm using a regular sized backpack (not a camping backpack), so space is an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 5, 2023 12 hours ago, ESB said: Here is what I'm thinking for a Get Home Bag and start for a Bug Out Bag. Thoughts? Use Kiwi Camp Dry to waterproof items that need extra waterproof protection Basically looking for stuff that is lightweight, compact and multi-use when possible. I'm using a regular sized backpack (not a camping backpack), so space is an issue. Too much stuff that won't fit into your "regular sized backpack, IMHO. While I'm no expert, I have spent a good deal of time in the outdoors and have many hiking miles under my belt. To me, the greatest tool is knowledge. You can do more with that than you can with paracord or bandanas. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted January 8, 2023 i don't really have a bugout bag set up. probably should, but i don't see bugging out being a viable option. unless something happens that we see coming a week or two ahead, really all that'll happen trying to bug out is that we'll leave the relative security of our home and land ourselves in the relative insecurity of a traffic jam somewhere. that all said, i keep an emergency bag in my truck. warm socks, couple bandannas, pants, couple shirts, boony hat, foldup shovel, kabar, booboo kit, and a couple other things. even at that, the thing weighs around 18 pounds....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted January 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: i don't really have a bugout bag set up. probably should, but i don't see bugging out being a viable option. unless something happens that we see coming a week or two ahead, really all that'll happen trying to bug out is that we'll leave the relative security of our home and land ourselves in the relative insecurity of a traffic jam somewhere. that all said, i keep an emergency bag in my truck. warm socks, couple bandannas, pants, couple shirts, boony hat, foldup shovel, kabar, booboo kit, and a couple other things. even at that, the thing weighs around 18 pounds....... I'm like you brother! I don't have a bugout bag because I don't see a bugout option for me! My guns, ammo and food stores needed for survival are impossible for me to move to another location! My house has a cellar that is mostly underground and is totally defensible! God knows I don't want to live down there...but I could if I had to! Needless to say, my kids and grand kids would be there as well. They hate guns and think I'm a fool for owning more than 1 or 2 guns but in that scenario, they will have to learn to shoot back! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted January 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: I'm like you brother! I don't have a bugout bag because I don't see a bugout option for me! My guns, ammo and food stores needed for survival are impossible for me to move to another location! My house has a cellar that is mostly underground and is totally defensible! God knows I don't want to live down there...but I could if I had to! Needless to say, my kids and grand kids would be there as well. They hate guns and think I'm a fool for owning more than 1 or 2 guns but in that scenario, they will have to learn to shoot back! or reload Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, 1LtCAP said: or reload I don't trust ANYONE to reload a round that I will eventually fire! I am WAY too anal about safety when it comes to my reloads! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: I don't trust ANYONE to reload a round that I will eventually fire! I am WAY too anal about safety when it comes to my reloads! i get where yer comin from....but if it's...uuummm......busy........you ain't gonna have the time to reload yer mags...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted January 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: i don't really have a bugout bag set up. probably should, but i don't see bugging out being a viable option. Buging-in is only a viable strategy for as long as the location is safe. You have to acknowledge that hunkering down may not be an option from the get go, or becomes unsustainable as time passes. Obviously the nature and severity of the event informs your decision, but at some point you may have no choice. There's bugging out, and then there's heading for the hills. Bug out is more of a short term plan. Your chances of surviving a disaster, calamity or riot go up exponentially if you can sustain yourself for 72 hours. Your BOB is just a little insurance that you hope you never have to use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted January 8, 2023 I guess they will have to learn quick! Either that, or you and I will have have to join forces in SHTF! If the shit really hits the fan, none of us are likely to survive alone! We need to come together and combine our resources and talents. I don't have any like minded neighbors I can trust to team up with! I just have lots of people who say "I know where I'm going if the SHTF" Yeah right! Think twice before you come to my house! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted January 9, 2023 19 hours ago, JohnnyB said: I guess they will have to learn quick! Either that, or you and I will have have to join forces in SHTF! If the shit really hits the fan, none of us are likely to survive alone! We need to come together and combine our resources and talents. I don't have any like minded neighbors I can trust to team up with! I just have lots of people who say "I know where I'm going if the SHTF" Yeah right! Think twice before you come to my house! oddly i am in that same situation with neighbors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted January 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: oddly i am in that same situation with neighbors. We may have to join forces! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted January 9, 2023 With my family my bug-out bag would have to be an RV. With kids/dogs it would be impossible to fit enough food/water/etc for more than a day or so in the SUV. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, JohnnyB said: We may have to join forces! might be something to talk about....... 39 minutes ago, voyager9 said: With my family my bug-out bag would have to be an RV. With kids/dogs it would be impossible to fit enough food/water/etc for more than a day or so in the SUV. remember doomsday preppers? there was an episode where the guy did indeed have a small trailer set up for bugging out with his family. if i recall, he's also the guy that shot himself in the hand or something like that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 9:12 AM, CMJeepster said: Too much stuff that won't fit into your "regular sized backpack, IMHO. While I'm no expert, I have spent a good deal of time in the outdoors and have many hiking miles under my belt. To me, the greatest tool is knowledge. You can do more with that than you can with paracord or bandanas. So I am almost done with it. Its a normal sized backpack with 3 zipped main compartments, large, medium and small. Was able to get almost everything to fit. Won't be able to fit sneakers/boots. Total weight of the bag is 18lbs. Most of the stuff is small, just a lot of it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted January 13, 2023 Here's a short video I came across to help you get started: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ESB 240 Posted January 14, 2023 Really like this video, goes into what you need, why you need it, and where/how you should store or organize it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted January 14, 2023 2 hours ago, ESB said: Really like this video, goes into what you need, why you need it, and where/how you should store or organize it. He seems to have a solid plan, but I think it can be improved. Most of the time there is only one person in a car, but like this guy has, there should be a contingency for family, or multiple passengers. . He stuffed enough gear in one bag for four people. Well, if there is going to be at least one other person if you need additional supplies, then why not do two bags. The first bag is the drivers bag. It will have all of the necessities for one person, and with all the bags space for one person, he can put in more, or perhaps better options in the bag. For instance, if he wasn't carrying 5 of everything, he could get a better bivvy and vacuum pack it. He could have better meal options,. Instead of a tiny pepper spray, a larger can of bear spray (or both), extra socks, better FAK. You get the idea. Second bag would have the extras. Extra food, water shelter, ponchos, protection,, etc. All the stuff from his setup that he was humping for other people. Why should everything for everyone be stuffed in one bag, no reason for it, It's guaranteed that if bag 2 is needed, there will be at least one other person there to carry bag number two. I did like his idea about the water key. It does not take up much space and it expands options for the most critical of supplies, water. Then I got to thinking, if he has the multi-tool with pliers, does he really need the water key. Still good outside the box thinking. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,120 Posted January 14, 2023 I'm thinking about getting one of these for BOB. It holds a substantial charge. The reviews I read say it takes about two days to fully charge from flat dead on solar, but if it's fully charged , the battery won't likely be depleted from daily use. Solar can usually top off daily usage. It's only thirty bucks. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites