Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 Isn't is amazing how a film could last so long in a camera without disintegrating? Fantastic photos taken 68 years ago. Some of you will have to go to a museum to see what a Brownie camera looked like? Here is a simple picture of what we are talking about. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 Isn't is amazing how a film could last so long in a camera without disintegrating? Fantastic photos taken 68 years ago. Some of you will have to go to a museum to see what a Brownie camera looked like? Here is a simple picture of what we are talking about. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 Another pick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 Another pick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 another pick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 PHOTOS STORED IN AN OLD BROWNIE CAMERA Thought you might find these photos very interesting; what quality from 1941. Pearl Harbor photos found in an old Brownie stored in a foot locker. And just recently Taken to be developed. THESE PHOTOS ARE FROM A SAILOR WHO WAS ON THE USS QUAPAW ATF-11O. I THINK THEY'RE SPECTACULAR! PEARL HARBOR December 7th, 1941 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 Pearl Harbor On Sunday, December 7th, 1941 the Japanese launched a surprise attack against the U.S. Forces stationed at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. By planning this attack on a Sunday, the Japanese commander Admiral Nagumo, hoped to catch the entire fleet in port. As luck would have it, the Aircraft Carriers and one of the Battleships were not in port. (The USS Enterprise was returning from Wake Island, where it had just delivered some aircraft. The USS Lexington was ferrying aircraft to Midway, and the USS Saratoga and USS Colorado were undergoing repairs in the United States ) In spite of the latest intelligence reports about the missing aircraft carriers (his most important targets), Admiral Nagumo decided to continue the attack with his force of six carriers and 423 aircraft. At a range of 230 miles north of Oahu , he launched the first wave of a two-wave attack. Beginning at 0600 hours his first wave consisted of 183 fighters and torpedo bombers which struck at the fleet in Pearl Harbor and the airfields in Hickam, Kaneohe and Ewa. The second strike, launched at 0715 hours, consisted of 167 aircraft, which again struck at the same targets. At 0753 hours the first wave consisting of 40 Nakajima B5N2 'Kate' torpedo bombers, 51 Aichi D3A1 'Val' dive bombers, 50 high altitude bombers and 43 Zeros struck airfields and Pearl Harbor Within the next hour, the second wave arrived and continued the attack. When it was over, the U.S. Losses were: Casualties US Army: 218 KIA, 364 WIA. US Navy: 2,008 KIA, 710 WIA. US MarineCorp: 109 KIA, 69 WIA. Civilians: 68 KIA, 35 WIA. TOTAL: 2,403 KIA, 1,178 WIA. ------------------------------------------------- Battleships USS Arizona (BB-39) - total loss when a bomb hit her magazine. USS Oklahoma (BB-37) - Total loss when she capsized and sunk in the harbor. USS California (BB-44) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired. USS West Virginia (BB-48) - Sunk at her berth. Later raised and repaired. USS Nevada - (BB-36) Beached to prevent sinking. Later repaired. USS Pennsylvania (BB-38) - Light damage. USS Maryland (BB-46) - Light damage. USS Tennessee (BB-43) Light damage. USS Utah (AG-16) - (former battleship used as a target) - Sunk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cruisers USS New Orleans (CA-32) - Light Damage.. USS San Francisco (CA-38) - Light Damage. USS Detroit (CL-8) - Light Damage. USS Raleigh (CL-7) - Heavily damaged but repaired. USS Helena (CL-50) - Light Damage. USS Honolulu (CL-48) - Light Damage.. -------------------------- -- ---------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- Destroyers USS Downes (DD-375) - Destroyed. Parts salvaged. USS Cassin - (DD -372) Destroyed. Parts salvaged. USS Shaw (DD-373) - Very heavy damage. USS Helm (DD-388) - Light Damage. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Minelayer USS Ogala (CM-4) - Sunk but later raised and repaired. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seaplane Tender USS Curtiss (AV-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Repair Ship USS Vestal (AR-4) - Severely damaged but later repaired. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Harbor Tug USS Sotoyomo (YT-9) - Sunk but later raised and repaired. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aircraft 188 Aircraft destroyed (92 USN and 92 U.S. Army Air Corps.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted October 26, 2009 Nice! Bonus points if you can identify the rifle in Pick7.jpg. I certainly can't heh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 Nice! Bonus points if you can identify the rifle in Pick7.jpg. I certainly can't heh. The rifle in picture seven is either carbina M1 or a Garand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted October 26, 2009 These photos are of Pearl harbor but not from a 68 year old Brownie. They are from Navy Archives. I've been into photgraphy since I got my Merit Badge (in the 60s),taught photography, done custom black and white printing, and some free lance stuff. The guy would have had to be all over Pearl Harbor to take these photos. The quality far exceeds what you'll get from a Brownie under any circumstances let alone from 68 year old film. Film will develop itself over time and go blank. I have developed film left in cameras (including Brownies) for over 20 years and got images but no where near the quality shown here. They are great photos though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted October 26, 2009 Bonus points if you can identify the rifle in Pick7.jpg. I certainly can't heh. Looks like a 1903 Springfield. The M1 carbine's final design was not completed until Dec 1941. There is no gas cylinder and that rules out the Garand. The Army was not fully equipped with the Garand at the time of Pearl Harbor and when the Marines invaded Guadacanal months later, they were still using 03 Springfields. I've read many Marines "found" Garands later on after the Army arrived there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackfox 1 Posted October 26, 2009 I don't know much about photography, after years of not developing the film it turn rusty. Whether it's true or not this are are great pictures, and a reminded that we can't never let it happen again, ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totalabuse 27 Posted October 26, 2009 Bonus points if you can identify the rifle in Pick7.jpg. I certainly can't heh. Looks like a 1903 Springfield. The M1 carbine's final design was not completed until Dec 1941. There is no gas cylinder and that rules out the Garand. The Army was not fully equipped with the Garand at the time of Pearl Harbor and when the Marines invaded Guadacanal months later, they were still using 03 Springfields. I've read many Marines "found" Garands later on after the Army arrived there. Indeed, that in without a doubt a Springfield. Very cool pics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted October 26, 2009 I'm very skeptical of the photo with the 7-35 in the lower left corner. This was typical of the time period and was done during developing and is typically not duplicated today. Furthermore, the quality of these images seems to exceed that of the capabilities of the lens and film of the lowly Brownie camera. With that being said - these are still very moving images. I've been to Pearl Harbor and have stood on the memorial over the USS Arizona - it's an eerie experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt6669 71 Posted October 26, 2009 With that being said - these are still very moving images. I've been to Pearl Harbor and have stood on the memorial over the USS Arizona - it's an eerie experience. I agree 100% with you Dan. That was probably one of the most amazing experiences I have ever had in my life. I plan to go back sometime in my lifetime but for now, I have tons and tons of pictures to relive it whenever I want! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted October 26, 2009 I'm very skeptical of the photo with the 7-35 in the lower left corner. True that was done then and usually on sheet film. The 4x5 Graphic was mainstay of pro photograhpy at that time. One would use opaque spotting ink to number the negative for filing purposes. Another way would be to scratch it in with a stylus but this would turn out black in the print. I've bought some old negatives at times with catalog numbers that would be visible in the print. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted October 26, 2009 It did happen again, NYC 2001. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted October 27, 2009 There were more people killed (2974) on 9/11 than at Pearl Harbor (2350). At Pearl Harbor nearly half of the deaths (1177) were on the Arizona. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites