Shawnmoore81 623 Posted September 6, 2010 Well after all the trouble I just got approved for my first handgun permit. I've spent the last few months shopping around and I'm looking at either the sig sauer p250 .40 compact 2 tone with night sights or the Taurus judge public defender in stainless. I plan on using the gun for home protection, recreational shooting and when my fla concealed carry permit is obtained to carry when I'm in Philly. I'm leaning towards the p250 just because it seems like it will Gide better but I live the reliability of a revolver mixed with the stopping power of the .410 shell. I honestly think I'm gonna end up buying both but any input would be great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted September 6, 2010 Have you ever shot any of these pistols? I would tend away to stay from 40 cal, and more specifically if this is your first handgun and you do not have the ability to load down the 40 cal to more manageable recoil. Come to some of our meetups, shoot a variety of guns, go to stores, rent a variety of guns, shoot them, then decide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted September 6, 2010 Have you ever shot any of these pistols? I would tend away to stay from 40 cal, and more specifically if this is your first handgun and you do not have the ability to load down the 40 cal to more manageable recoil. Come to some of our meetups, shoot a variety of guns, go to stores, rent a variety of guns, shoot them, then decide. I echo all of these sentiments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted September 6, 2010 Have you ever shot any of these pistols? Actually, the great thing about guns is you can always sell it if you decide you don't like it. Someone will buy it. Of all the guns I've bought, I only tried the mosin before buying. The other purchases were just based on reviews on the Internet or just me wanting it no matter what. I've been lucky with all my purchases so far... The one thing I recommend is trying the caliber you want or go higher just to make sure you can handle the recoil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 6, 2010 If you live anywhere near monmouth or ocean counties I strongly suggest hitting up shore shot or brick armory for a nice rental shoot. Shore shot has a lot of pistols to try out. Since it is your first gun you want to be sure you love it before you buy it. If you already have a few pistols it wouldn't matter if you buy something you hate because you could just shoot something else. You end up with a pistol you don't really like you are kinda stuck (for 30 days at least). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted September 6, 2010 Shawn: I agree that, if you get the opportunity, you should shoot the guns you are interested in, before buying. Might also be a good idea to start with a 9mm as opposed to the .40, for less recoil and more importantly, less cost. You list two widely disparate guns of interest. I've never been a Taurus fan - although many here are. The "Judge" seems to me to be a solution looking for a problem. For your uses, the Sig would seem to be the better way to go (thus the suggestion for 9mm). The criticisms of the 250 generally center around the long trigger reset. I think that is just something you have to get used to - as with most things requiring repetitive motions, it's more about muscle memory than anything else. The 250 gives you the flexibility to build into a full-size or subcompact if you wish - even changing calibers. All this without the need for more permits (the fire control module is the serial numbered part - all else can be purchased through the mail, if desired). The trigger on the 250 is wonderful and will spoil you for just about any other DA trigger. Smooth and light with no "stack" - great for a defensive handgun IMHO. Welcome to the world of firearms and good luck. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted September 6, 2010 My best friend is a cop so I've shot is duty .40 glock, his .45 hk. I was very accurate with both. Ive shot my grandfathers handguns .38 special amd 9mm. My fatherinlaws lugar. Ive also rented a few pistols at hauges in west depford. This is going to be the first pistol I'm buying I've been shooting since I was in the boyscouts in like 6th grade or so. I just haven't tried either of these particular guns yet. I was more looking to hear any one who owns or shot either of these to give me their opinion on em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted September 6, 2010 My best friend is a cop so I've shot is duty .40 glock, his .45 hk. I was very accurate with both. Ive shot my grandfathers handguns .38 special amd 9mm. My fatherinlaws lugar. Ive also rented a few pistols at hauges in west depford. This is going to be the first pistol I'm buying I've been shooting since I was in the boyscouts in like 6th grade or so. I just haven't tried either of these particular guns yet. I was more looking to hear any one who owns or shot either of these to give me their opinion on em. I have shot both. I am not a fan of the Judge. The 250 has a long triggerpull, but it is consistant and clean breaking. As for the caliber I do not feel a 40 is that much to control. My wife shoots 40's and it is her favorite caliber. Recoil is subjective and has a lot to do with the platform from which it is shot from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildbob 14 Posted September 6, 2010 Shawn, if you plan to carry that 250, go to Sig's website and click on that red product alert on the home page. Scroll down past the 238 stuff and read about grip and holster changes so you can buy it compatible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirsloop 1 Posted September 6, 2010 First off WELCOME!! I wouldn't get either for defensive purposes. The Sig has a crazy long trigger pull and you need to completely release the trigger to get a reset. That alone is not a reason not to buy... you can be much faster with a pistol that has a shorter trigger pull. Something DA/SA is much nicer. IDK if you bought into all the gimmicks with the swappable parts or what not? IMHO just pick an autoloader that is known for reliability feeding one caliber ammo. You don't need a pistol that can shoot 8 different caliber bullets, have 6 different grip configurations, 5 different trigger groups, etc etc. You'll spend money on all that crap and in the end you'll just use the one that is the cheapest to shoot and feels the best. Might as well just get a gun that feels the best without d*cking around with it The Judge has only 5 shots... and the .410 is not the round you are lookin to use on a person. You could shoot .45 colt, but you would be better off with a .357 or .44mag that has 6 rounds. If you want something really small you could get a .38 double action and load it with +P JHP's. Check this out regarding the Judge. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm I personally like 9mm pistols. You get lots of bullets in the double stack mags, you can buy premium +P JHP's for home defense, you can plink with $0.20 FMJ's. That would make a nice carry piece IMHO. If you want home defense then there's nothing better than a 12 gauge pump with 00, 000, or 0000 buckshot. Pick your flavor depending on how close your neighbors are. Nothin says "GET THE F OUTTA MY HOUSE" like a 12 gauge CHAAACHINNNNNG! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted September 6, 2010 I honestly don't care about all the switching size and calibers. I'd rather just buy another gun. As far as a shotgun goes I'm looking for something small to hide in my room. With kids I'd rather not keep my shotguns out. For home defense now I'm using a beretta cx4 9mm but I deff wanna switch to a handgun. I'm renting a 2nd floor apt at the moment till my new house is done being built so getting a safe up here wasn't really an option especially just for a couple months. So I'm not even keeping most of my guns here just my storm and during hunting season whatever gun I'm using for that season. My son is use to being around guns and has shot guns before. So he is familiar with them but he's 8 years old and i don't want curiosity killing him. Its just that age i dont trust.I'm going to use one of those biometric safes in my bedroom for the pistol. I think I might hut hauges tomorrow and see what they have to rent. I've heard alot of complaints about that trigger so I deff wanna look into that. I guess glock and hk might be worth lookin I To Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted September 6, 2010 Well it sounds like you've had some experience firing handguns, so I'll skip the get a .22 line. I would highly recommend going down to Shoreshot and rent a bunch. Find the one that fits you best, and that YOU feel you can operate correctly when you're half asleep and need it immediately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 6, 2010 If you have the beretta cx4 already then think about picking up a beretta pistol. You can swap the mags back and forth with the cx4. There are a bunch of different berettas to choose from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted September 6, 2010 If you have the beretta cx4 already then think about picking up a beretta pistol. You can swap the mags back and forth with the cx4. There are a bunch of different berettas to choose from. Agreed! PX4 Storm! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted September 6, 2010 Um going testing and shopping this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted September 28, 2010 I ended buying the p250 compact .40 with nitron coating Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted September 28, 2010 Congrats. Sigs are great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted September 28, 2010 I live the reliability of a revolver mixed with the stopping power of the .410 shell. That's kind of over rating the 410. Not the caliber I'd pick for a fight. I usually advise people to get a 4" 357 revolver (S&W, Ruger, or Taurus). It's about the best all around handgun you can get and about the most versatile. Wide range of power levels available in factory ammo and if you master a DA revolver everything else is easy. Not too big to conceal but big enough to shoot easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted September 28, 2010 I live the reliability of a revolver mixed with the stopping power of the .410 shell. That's kind of over rating the 410. Not the caliber I'd pick for a fight. I usually advise people to get a 4" 357 revolver (S&W, Ruger, or Taurus). It's about the best all around handgun you can get and about the most versatile. Wide range of power levels available in factory ammo and if you master a DA revolver everything else is easy. Not too big to conceal but big enough to shoot easily. I agree with you on everything except that the 410 is a little more versatile. You can still shoot 45LC which have been putting people in wooden boxes for a long time. Not to mention the new defensive loads that are out there in 410 and 45LC. I've shot those 410 defensive loads and they would definitly put a hurtin on anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skruft 1 Posted October 4, 2010 I think the gun you bought will be just fine for all your purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites