Damjan 73 Posted October 5, 2010 Hello Everyone, Got 2 pistol permits on the way but i`ve never shot anything but a 9mm a few times. I`m thinking one should be a .22lr to learn to shoot , but what about the other one ? Any suggestions on what to get ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted October 5, 2010 One should be a 22LR. the other... it depends on what you like. Do you want a revolver? a semi auto? full size? compact? Sub? Polymer or Steel? Something that you will shoot often? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted October 5, 2010 I would recommend a full size 9mm as your first. Come to a meet and try out a bunch of different guns before you buy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted October 5, 2010 Also depends on what you intend to use it for. You would definitely pick a different pistol if you were choosing for HD over a range toy. Your price range would also be helpful as well as whether you would like a revolver or semi-auto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damjan 73 Posted October 5, 2010 I was thinking of the Ruger MK3 as a 22lr , Budget is around under 1K all in. For the other one a compact revolver steel. I would shoot them very often since i go to the range every other week with rifles. I would not use them as a HD weapons since i have a shotgun for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted October 5, 2010 Compact steel steel revolver S&W model 63 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/31/products_id/50012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronhonda 86 Posted October 5, 2010 I say buy a 1911 in 45acp and a cheap 1911 .22. Once you learn how to shoot a 1911, everything else is easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgofnj 5 Posted October 5, 2010 Other good suggestions for a .22 LR are S&W 22A or Browning Buckmark, both well priced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted October 5, 2010 Speaking of 22A's, Zardoz has a terrific one in the marketplace. wood grips and a bull barrel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fliks 20 Posted October 5, 2010 oh yah.... good memory, Maks! I keep glancing at it once in a while, I can't believe no one has snatched this baby up yet! http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/18388-wts-sw-model-22a-semi-w-2-mags-22lr/ nice .22 at a good price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted October 5, 2010 Funny - I wrote something about this roughly a week ago. FAQ 1What should I select for my first pistol? ANS1 In NJ, where each pistol requires a permit and in most cases requires a 30 day waiting period between purchases, this is a critical item of concern for new shooters. This is a highly debatable topic, however; in our experience, a .22 pistol is always an excellent choice. The cost of ammunition is extremely low, the recoil is low and generally will not turn off inexperience shooters from handling a gun. Furthermore, history has shown that when ammunition shortages occur, 22 ammunition is the last item to be “out of stock”. The 22 pistol allows inexperienced shooters to develop appropriate shooting skills and due to its low recoil prevents flinching that may occur with larger rounds. The 22 pistols has the same features of any other handgun and should not be discounted as a “wimpy” round or a “toy” gun. Neither of these statements are accurate. 22 handguns are just as accurate (in some cases, moreso) than their larger caliber cousins out to 50 yards. In addition, the 22LR round has been reportedly used for many years by the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) as an offensive weapon. We do not attempt to purport that a 22LR handgun is preferable for self-defense, however, it is better than not having a gun at all. FAQ2 Ok, I've selected a 22LR for my first pistol, what shall I select for my second pistol? ANS2 This question is highly subjective. In order to answer it appropriately it is necessary to assess one's needs. Do you want a large caliber, slow moving round or do you want a smaller claiber, fast moving round? How important is ammunition cost to you? The US military up until 1985 used a 1911 pistol a 45 caliber pistol with an 8 round capacity. In 1985 they changed to a Beretta 92FS, a 9mm pistol with a 15 round capacity. Obviously both pistols fill different niches. We suggest that you consider your needs and perform your own research, but in any case, we recommend actually handling and if possible test shooting what you intend to purchase in order that you can determine for yourself how the gun you are considering fits in your hand and reacts with your body. The gun you hate to shoot is the only gun that is a waste of money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted October 5, 2010 I say get the 9mm you like first. Then when it's just sitting there because it cost too much to shoot a few hundred rounds a week you buy the .22!! lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imperialfish 11 Posted October 5, 2010 Get a 9mm like a sig p226 and the 22 conversion kit that way you only burn one permit. You can shoot mine next meet if you come out to BH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted October 6, 2010 I went with a 9mm for my first gun and IMHO it was the best choice. I guess if you plan on purchasing another gun in 30 days it really doesn't make a difference tho. You def. don't need a 22 to learn how to shoot, a 9mm will get going just as good. I plan on getting a 22 just for the simple reason of economics, cheaper rounds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted October 6, 2010 I went with a 9mm for my first gun and IMHO it was the best choice. I guess if you plan on purchasing another gun in 30 days it really doesn't make a difference tho. You def. don't need a 22 to learn how to shoot, a 9mm will get going just as good. I plan on getting a 22 just for the simple reason of economics, cheaper rounds. I respect your opinion however I am begging to know why. Why is a 9mm just as good as a 22LR to learn how to shoot? Personally, I believe that it is far easier to learn bad habits and mistakes on a larger caliber handgun than on a 22 caliber pistol... better yet, a 22 caliber revolver. Unless you own a handgun, and until you do, you really dont know what you like, or dislike, what you can shoot better, what gun is best to the type of shooting you do and the type of shooter and gun owner that you are. A 22 caliber pistol will be by far the cheapest way to throw your money out if you make a mistake. A Good 22lr semi auto will run you $250, such as a Smith Wesson 22A. A $100 worth of ammo is 5 bricks, so somewhere between 5,000 and 5,500 rounds of ammo to go practice with, and to really hone in what you want. How many times do we see someone buy a brand X gun, only to realize they made a mistake by seeing how it fits in the hand and reading a review of how this gun is chosen by X agency, or X gun was in this movie.... ie, how many people bought Glocks because in a rap song they are reliable, or a Desert Eagle because Neo can shoot it one handed in The Matrix. How many people buy a Sub Compact Glock 26, or a 40 Caliber Glock 23 as their first handgun? Till the first shot and realize the recoil is harsh, and the gun that felt good in their hand was not designed for pleasant shooting but rather to be a carry gun? How many people bought a Ruger LCR or an LCP because it is small and cute, only to shoot it to have their hand fall off from the recoil? They dont realize that their gun was designed as a backup gun and was not designed to be fired as a target gun. Even if you waste $350 on a 22LR gun and 10 bricks of ammo, better do that and have a gun you can sell for $200 then to spend $350 worth of 9mm ammo and not be happy with your choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted October 6, 2010 How many times do we see someone buy a brand X gun, only to realize they made a mistake by seeing how it fits in the hand and reading a review of how this gun is chosen by X agency, or X gun was in this movie.... ie, how many people bought Glocks because in a rap song they are reliable, or a Desert Eagle because Neo can shoot it one handed in The Matrix. FYI that was Agent Smith and the others, not Neo. Neo used a Beretta 92FS And yes - definitely try before you buy. I did and I couldn't be happier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronhonda 86 Posted October 6, 2010 Also take into consideration what you want to do with it. Do you plan on competing, home defense, bullseye, a plinker? Buy something that you can use in whatever you plan on doing with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,894 Posted October 7, 2010 Personally, I see the 9mm as an in the middle kind of round. Obviously there will be differences with in the make and model you choose to go with, but it's got kick, not to much kick. Rounds aren't cheap, but there not expensive. It's not easy to shoot, but its not hard to shoot. I feel that when starting with a 9mm, you can go up or down with different calibers, and still feel comfortable shooting. I would suggest buying what you intend to use it for, and not what people tell you to buy. I plan on getting a 22 just for the reasons Maks has outlined, but a 9mm in hand makes me feel like a man. Maybe i just wound up buying a very tame 9mm... I guess the main point everyone in trying to say is to buy a gun you won't regret and end up selling, try finding a range that rents and try them out, its probably easier to find a caliber you like and difficult to find a pistol in that caliber that suits you. Honestly, i think it might be a good idea to learn how to shoot on both. You can use the 9mm to find where your weaknesses might be and use the 22 to correct those weaknesses. I know consistency is key to learning, but shooting in both calibers might give you insight to things one or the other might not offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpas1973 0 Posted October 7, 2010 why dont you ask someone on the forum to bring you to the range and try some different caliber guns before you buy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PR-NJ 0 Posted October 8, 2010 I'll bite: 1. Beretta Neos - .22LR (approx. $250) 2. Glock 19 - 9mm (approx. $500) Then buy $250 worth of ammo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damjan 73 Posted October 9, 2010 Thanks for your thoughts everyone , I ll definitely try to come to a meetup and try some of your pride and joy`s before i buy anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted October 12, 2010 My vote is a p226 in 9mm and a browning buckmark or ruger 22/45 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfy 51 Posted October 12, 2010 I can be found at SS if you want to try something. I have a Pro Sereis 60 if you want to try a nice compact 357 as well as the bigger brother 686 so you can compare the two. How about a 617 in 22LR for a second revolver? It has the same weight and feel as the 686 so you can practice cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted October 13, 2010 I would choose the Ruger MK3. It is one of the best .22;r guns I have ever seen. At first I didn't get it but after I shot it, I am a huge fan. Shoot it and then decide where to go. Spend some time meeting up with member and shoot what they have. You will get an idea of what you like. baby steps is best. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted October 14, 2010 I would choose the Ruger MK3. It is one of the best .22;r guns I have ever seen. At first I didn't get it but after I shot it, I am a huge fan. Shoot it and then decide where to go. Spend some time meeting up with member and shoot what they have. You will get an idea of what you like. baby steps is best. +1.. haha.. now they only need to come out with a 325 round magazine for it and it would be the most awesomeness 22 ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites