My quick convertible water cooled to air cooled Ruger 10/22 stock

[Bill Akins 0]

Thought I'd share my latest water & air cooled Ruger 10/22 stock build. This is my 3rd of three prototypes. This is semi auto, NOT full auto. It has the option of using a crankfire trigger activator so it can be crankfired like a Gatling gun.

 

This 3rd prototype is quickly convertible from truly water cooled to air cooled in about 30 seconds.

 

Although the final surface finish has not been applied yet, these pics give a good representation of how the convertible to air or water cooled stock will look when I finish it.

 

On my water cooled barrel jacket, I used a front sight of my own design that resembles a Browning 1917's hooded front post sight. On the rear I used a sight mount of my own design that holds and allows spring assisted raising of the WW1 Enfield rifle's ladder sight, that I have modified to enable to be used for windage in my sight mount. Works very well and looks historically representative of tripod machine gun's sights from that era my stock resembles.

 

This is my mockup of how the 1919a4 style front sight will look when in the air cooled configuration.

 

I decided to also be able to use AA spider sights on the air cooled model also as in these sight mockups I did here where the rear and front sight are not yet attached. Just to see how it would look....

 

 

 

Last night I made the quick removable rear ladder sight bracket. That once removed, will not have any unsightly threaded holes. So that I can mount the spider sights on the air cooled version when I remove the water jacket from the water cooled version. I realized that I could mill off the triangle on the right side of the rear sight bracket and just keep the triangle on the left side (like on a real Browning 1919) and still be able to secure the sight bracket without it having any kind of looseness or "rock" at all. All that is left to do with this sight bracket is to drill and tap the sight riser plate for the ladder sight's spring, and then to drill the sight protector "ears" and install a small diameter bolt through them and the ladder sight so I can effect windage. The 1917 Enfield rifle ladder sight I am using did not have the ability for windage. It was a flip up type only. So I tapped its pin hole where it flipped up, so it is threaded. The small diameter bolt I will put through it will enable me to turn the bolt to make the ladder sight travel left or right on the bolt, thus effecting windage. I left the sight protective "ears" a little higher than I needed until I mount the ladder sight's spring and the sight itself. Then I may be able to trim the “ears” down some maybe an 1/8th inch or so. So when you look at it now, the protective ears may look a little higher than they will eventually be. When I made them, I figured better to have them too high and be able to trim them after I finished mounting the sight and its spring, than to have made them too short. You can always trim metal, but it is hard to add when you have cut off.

 

Here's a link to a short video.

CLIP1314.ASF videos from good times videos on webshots

 

....and the latest pics of the rear sight bracket that does not have the ladder sight or front hooded post sight attached yet, with the water jacket mounted....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did a little redesign on the bracket mount for the tripod. I think it looks better now than just the earlier bent piece of steel mount bracket it was. Much stronger too.

 

 

 

Just a few sight fabrications to do and final surface finishing. It's not finished yet, but getting very close.

 

 

 

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[Maksim 1,504]

Welcome. While this is totally cool.... totally illegal in NJ.... are you trying to sell this concept? First post?

[Bill Akins 0]

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[Bill Akins 0]

Welcome. While this is totally cool.... totally illegal in NJ.... are you trying to sell this concept? First post?

 

Thanks, glad you like it.

 

It is just a rifle stock. That isn't illegal in NJ.

Is the Ruger 10/22 that goes into my stock illegal in N.J.?

It is 29 & 1/2 inches long with the firearm installed into it. 3 & 1/2 inches longer than the

26 inch legal minimum. The barrel is over 16 inches long. The legal minimum being 16 inches long.

 

The 50 round mag I have in it, I can easily switch out to a 10 round capacity magazine. But that wouldn't

make the stock itself illegal in N.J.

 

The BMF crankfire trigger activator I put on it, is an optional accessory that is legal in every state

with the exceptions of Calif and Minn, unless NJ has a new law against trigger activators I am not aware of.

But I don't have to have the BMF crankfire trigger activator on my stock.

 

I am not offering anything for sale here. Just showing what I have built. Yes, this was my first post.

 

 

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[Maksim 1,504]

15 round limit.

[tony357 386]

If i remeber the crank trigger was an issue in nj..

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

crank isnt an issue in NJ, although I'm sure alot of officers wouldnt agree with that. Saw your posts on 1919a4.com, pretty cool stuff!

[BoBoPrime 0]

Cool stuff!

Too bad about the mag size for NJ, reloading 10-15 round mags is boring with something like this...

 

Do you find that the large charging handle slows the action down?

[NJ609 22]

I think that looks amazing. I love seeing stuff like this. So much talent out there!

[Bill Akins 0]

Cool stuff!

Do you find that the large charging handle slows the action down?

 

Thanks. I am still experimenting with the charging handle, so it is

still too early to tell. I may possibly have to make another out of Titanium.

 

 

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[bulpup 98]

Great for squirrel hunting I bet.

 

Although not historicaly accurate, the modern SAW has a charging handle that does not move with the bolt. Might solve that problem, although half the "coolness" is the handle racking and spitting out the brass.

Actually come to think of it, even the Browning .50 cal of the era has a separated charging handle.

[Bill Akins 0]

Great for squirrel hunting I bet.

 

Although not historicaly accurate, the modern SAW has a charging handle that does not move with the bolt. Might solve that problem, although half the "coolness" is the handle racking and spitting out the brass.

Actually come to think of it, even the Browning .50 cal of the era has a separated charging handle.

 

I have considered making the larger charging handle fit around and against the front of the factory handle, so that the larger handle does not reciprocate back and forth but will still charge the factory handle. That would possibly entail a formed piece to put rods and springs into that would have to be riveted to the area surrounding the ejection port. A extra complicated piece to make. But I haven't totally finalized the op rod and am still experimenting with it. I've got a few options I still want to explore with it.

 

 

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[bulpup 98]

I have considered making the larger charging handle fit around and against the front of the factory handle, so that the larger handle does not reciprocate back and forth but will still charge the factory handle. That would possibly entail a formed piece to put rods and springs into that would have to be riveted to the area surrounding the ejection port. A extra complicated piece to make. But I haven't totally finalized the op rod and am still experimenting with it. I've got a few options I still want to explore with it.

 

 

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I would suggest a deep inspection of the M249. It is merely a slide with no springs and it locks forward with a tiny detent. The springs are on the bolt only.

[Bill Akins 0]

I would suggest a deep inspection of the M249. It is merely a slide with no springs and it locks forward with a tiny detent. The springs are on the bolt only.

 

I was thinking it would need a spring to keep the non reciprocating bolt handle tensioned forward on my build. Does the M249 adequately keep the non reciprocating bolt handle forward with just a small friction detent? But wouldn't that also make it not smooth and you have to "snap" it out of its detent every time you want to cock the gun? Or am I not correctly tracking on what you are trying to say?

 

 

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[bulpup 98]

I was thinking it would need a spring to keep the non reciprocating bolt handle tensioned forward on my build. Does the M249 adequately keep the non reciprocating bolt handle forward with just a small friction detent? But wouldn't that also make it not smooth and you have to "snap" it out of its detent every time you want to cock the gun? Or am I not correctly tracking on what you are trying to say?

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You are traking it pretty well. There may be some kind of spring thing involved but if it is it is probably some kind of little ball with a spring behind it, similar to the way the Mossberg 500 safety slider works

 

Removing the cocking handle is not a unit level maintenace item so I never actually got a look at the insides. But for what its worth if you pull on the cocking handle a certain way you will never get it to slide. usually it took a tiny upward movement. I guess they figured that they didn't have to design it for upside down carry.

 

I dont really think it was tension or friction, it felt more like a notch it fell into. Very small.

[XDJohnTact 49]

Fantastic work! Thanks so much for sharing it with us. Makes my stock 10/22K look so plain.

[Bill Akins 0]

Fantastic work! Thanks so much for sharing it with us. Makes my stock 10/22K look so plain.

 

Thanks again everyone for all the nice compliments and helpful suggestions.

I'll be sure to keep you updated on the progress here at this same thread.

 

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[joejaxx 38]

Thanks again everyone for all the nice compliments and helpful suggestions.

I'll be sure to keep you updated on the progress here at this same thread.

 

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Are you *THE* Bill Akins?

[Bill Akins 0]

Are you *THE* Bill Akins?

 

That would depend on which "THE" Bill Akins you are seeking, and whether you

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[PK90 3,569]

Are you *THE* Bill Akins?

Has to be.

[FFDP82 4]

15 round limit.

 

How about a "Sorry Bill Akins, I didn't know what I was talking about" ?