david8613 69 Posted December 12, 2010 i was wondering since the siaga is known for being "a best bang for your buck" in an ak, i was wondering what was the best bang for your buck in the ar world? already built though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted December 12, 2010 i was wondering since the siaga is known for being "a best bang for your buck" in an ak, i was wondering what was the best bang for your buck in the ar world? already built though... So, what are you asking if you built one already? Air gushing out ... sorry, I couldn't help it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted December 12, 2010 No I do believe he is asking for the "best bang for your buck AR" that has already been built, in other words he does not want to built it himself. Honestly, there are SO many more choices for AR parts over the AK type. It depends on how big your wallet is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted December 12, 2010 fair. it's just a leggo puzzle. Find the best parts and build it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 12, 2010 You already own the best mid range battle rifle to ever exist... you don't need an AR.. lol if you want an ar get an ar10.... at least that does something the saiga won't.. =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tAKticool Posted December 12, 2010 Not that this is exactly what you mean or the same thing but, you know Saiga comes in .223? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted December 12, 2010 Del-Ton's are problably the best bang for your buck. Sell the AK and get a gun with usable sights and a rifle you can hit something past 100 yards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 12, 2010 Del-Ton's are problably the best bang for your buck. Sell the AK and get a gun with usable sights and a rifle you can hit something past 100 yards. psat 100 yards? sure... people always say OH AKs are so much more accurate than AKs... but in that situation.. we are most of the time comparing an AR with 20+ in barrel.. good quality ammo.. shot with a scope... to some low grade beat to death AK.. running steel cheap russian ammo... out of a 16in barrel running a red dot at best... comparing two guns setup in two totally different ways.. is hardly a fair comparison.. I was just talking to a forum member on here the other day about what type of results one might see through a scoped 223 Saiga shooting match grade ammo with a good quality optic from a bench.. that would be a fair comparison of two similar guns.. just like people point to ARs now and say.. these are modern ARs.. they don't have the same problems the old ones had.. well I have to say.. there are certain AK type guns available on the market now that are pretty good quality.. for really long range shooting.. 7.62x39 or 223 aren't really all that reliable... yes I know confirmed kills at some crazy distances with 223.. but for a reliable long range gun.. I think you need to step up to a larger more powerful round... 7.62x51... .30-06.... etc.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted December 12, 2010 Ha, I think Ray said his comment with facetious intent. With that said, best bang for your buck? If cost is that much of an issue, piece one together-- even if it takes an extra month or two. I'm part of the "buy once, cry once" crowd. With that said, there is no reason to pay for a premium either, considering there are quality manufacturers out there that don't charge an arm or a leg. But that is no reason to try and buy an AR for like $400-500, as quality still has a price tag. Of course if its just a range gun, who cares-- knock yourself out and buy an Oly Arms or something. ETA: But to strictly answer your question, I would recommend the Smith and Wesson ARs, as well as Stag. If you want to piece one together, you can get a lower for as low as $100, and get the other parts and put it all together for less then $300. Then buy an upper for another $400-500. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 12, 2010 Ha, I think Ray said his comment with facetious intent. With that said, best bang for your buck? If cost is that much of an issue, piece one together-- even if it takes an extra month or two. I'm part of the "buy once, cry once" crowd. With that said, there is no reason to pay for a premium either, considering there are quality manufacturers out there that don't charge an arm or a leg. But that is no reason to try and buy an AR for like $400-500, as quality still has a price tag. Of course if its just a range gun, who cares-- knock yourself out and buy an Oly Arms or something. ETA: But to strictly answer your question, I would recommend the Smith and Wesson ARs, as well as Stag. If you want to piece one together, you can get a lower for as low as $100, and get the other parts and put it all together for less then $300. Then buy an upper for another $400-500. I can vouch for that.. I owned a S&W M&P15 and for the money.. I had no complaints.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted December 12, 2010 Whatever Ben and Vlad, I'll stay say my Stag rocks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted December 12, 2010 I was just talking to a forum member on here the other day about what type of results one might see through a scoped 223 Saiga shooting match grade ammo with a good quality optic from a bench. I thought we were talking about shooting 7.62x39 out of the Saiga from the bench. Seriously, this dude keeps making me think about getting a Saiga in x39...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted December 12, 2010 I thought we were talking about shooting 7.62x39 out of the Saiga from the bench. Seriously, this dude keeps making me think about getting a Saiga in x39...... ah that's right.... it was someone from Saiga 12 that I was talking to about the 223.. but our conversation (the one between you and me) is what started the 223 conversation... I am just curious.. with match grade ammo.. good optics.. etc.. what a 20in Saiga shot from a bench would do.. I think it would honestly surprise people a little.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted December 13, 2010 Sig 556? Shoots 5.56mm, uses a modified and improved AK gas system and bolt. Compatible with existing AR magazines... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david8613 69 Posted December 13, 2010 i was asking this question for a friend, i tried to convince to just get a saiga and do the restore/convert that its easy, i know he wont build an ar if he wont do the saiga. so i figured i can point him in right direction. i told him i would look in the forum market... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 805 Posted December 13, 2010 BCM or DD are the best bang for the buck IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted December 13, 2010 if you want a gas piston ar... get a Scar... Otherwise, AR's are pretty damn reliable anyway. Smith Wesson, Stag's, are all good AR's. If you have any skills with a punch and a hammer, build your own lower, and buy a complete upper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites