Caine 147 Posted January 24, 2011 OK Ill be the guy to stand up and say that Im FINE with the capacity of my shotgun I dont want or need something that looks like it s from the video game doom or a boat anchor slung out front. If I need more capacity, Im not grabbing the shotty, simple as that. Personally, extra capacity is a nice plus, but is secondary for me. I can live with 7+1 in an HD shotgun. I have no interest in shooting slugs inside my house, so the ability to switch ammunition types and what not... also not high up on the list of pluses. Looks are completely irrelevant. The form factor of the KSG, on the other hand, is what piques my curiosity. I can appreciate the convenience of an ambidextrous 26" shotgun indoors and since I can't own an SBS, the KSG seems like a good alternative... ...if it's actually reliable, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted January 24, 2011 http://www.xrailbyrci.com/ Whatever happened to the sidewinder drum kit you could attach to mossbergs to add more capacity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted January 24, 2011 The form factor of the KSG, on the other hand, is what piques my curiosity. I can appreciate the convenience of an ambidextrous 26" shotgun indoors and since I can't own an SBS, the KSG seems like a good alternative... ...if it's actually reliable, of course. This is what is interesting me as well. Yes, having two mag tubes is nice....even though 7 rounds of 12ga is enough for me for HD. Even if this KSG were only 7+1, I would still be interested because of the design. If this turns out to be reliable, it will quickly move to the top of my list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted January 24, 2011 Caine I agree, capacity is nice but..not at the expense of reliability, mobility etc etc. But hey if there are those out there that feel this solution works for them or is exactly what they need, by all means march on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 24, 2011 the KSG seems like a good alternative... ...if it's actually reliable, of course. There in lies the question. If it is, then it's an excellent choice for almost any tactical application. If it's not, well then you have a fun toy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted January 24, 2011 There in lies the question. If it is, then it's an excellent choice for almost any tactical application. If it's not, well then you have a fun toy! Fun Toys are what Keltec does, I don't know of anyone who owns anything Keltec (me included) that thinks they could be a serious LEO or even heavy use civilian firearm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 24, 2011 Fun Toys are what Keltec does, I don't know of anyone who owns anything Keltec (me included) that thinks they could be a serious LEO or even heavy use civilian firearm. I know some people that love their little pocket auto's, retired LEO's and Pennsy residents. Like I always say, if it runs then use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted January 27, 2011 kel tec bullpup is awesome!!!! kel tec seems to want to make nj friendly versions of their guns so hopefully bullpup will arrive here, even with less capacity (less weight), Im still a buyer, EXCELLENT pictures of the bullpup, thank you to any and all for those!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 27, 2011 even with less capacity (less weight) It's totally NJ legal as is, so need need to butcher that pump gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shore_shot 26 Posted January 28, 2011 this gun is slated to come out third quarter... although Kel-Tec says it is going to be sooner.. this was the most talked about gun at the Shot Show and apparently they are running more then one factory making them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shore_shot 26 Posted January 28, 2011 sorry so small taking on a phone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted January 28, 2011 this gun is slated to come out third quarter... although Kel-Tec says it is going to be sooner.. this was the most talked about gun at the Shot Show and apparently they are running more then one factory making them How do I get to the FRONT of the list?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 28, 2011 How do I get to the FRONT of the list?? $800 down and $800 when it arrives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted January 28, 2011 sorry so small taking on a phone Damn, your wifes hot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted January 28, 2011 $800 down and $800 when it arrives. Is that WITH or WITHOUT the Vaseline? at that price, i'll go to the BACK of the line & wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shore_shot 26 Posted January 29, 2011 Damn, your wifes hot! my girl is hot thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shore_shot 26 Posted January 29, 2011 How do I get to the FRONT of the list?? just give us a call and ill write you up for one.. problem is i dont have the pricing but we are taking orders for them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy1960 2 Posted January 29, 2011 does the kel-tec bullpup shotgun pass nj gun laws? If so, does anyone know when it might hit the market? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnyr 17 Posted January 29, 2011 Wow...I forgot how freaking slow pumps are. I really need to dust off my Winchester 1300 Defender and start practicing with it again. I was initially really interested in this weapon but after watching the vids...not so much. I'm pretty sure I can dump 10 rounds from 2 standard saiga 12 mags before keltec-dude gets through 7 rounds in that one tube. The slug in one tube and buck in other sounds neat at first too. But if you've got one type already chambered, that means you need to eject a live round to switch to the other type. So...it's the same concept anyway if I had to swap out buck for slug using mags (and vice versa). Also not a big fan of anything that dumps empty 12ga shells at my feet. It's hard to look all ninja when you're tripping over empty hulls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted January 29, 2011 You sir are about a month late. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/20950-kel-tec-ksg/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted January 29, 2011 ** Merged gunguy1960's thread into this larger one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowerlevel 77 Posted February 9, 2011 Looks like Buds has it listed on their website now (although its obviously out of stock). http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/151/products_id/74682 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted February 9, 2011 I am def in for one when they come out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caine 147 Posted February 9, 2011 I'd be SHOCKED if we see the KSG before very late 2011 or early 2012. And, honestly, with all the interest they got at SHOT, I'm sure they're gonna try to rush them out and QC will suffer... i'll probably end up waiting for v2.0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted February 9, 2011 $624? I'm in after all the kinks get worked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted February 10, 2011 I'd be SHOCKED if we see the KSG before very late 2011 or early 2012. And, honestly, with all the interest they got at SHOT, I'm sure they're gonna try to rush them out and QC will suffer... i'll probably end up waiting for v2.0 Yar, me too. I don't want any kabooms in my face 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowerlevel 77 Posted February 11, 2011 Agreed, I'll prob wait atleast a year after they finally come out before buying one. That way hopefully they will have any bugs worked out by then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caine 147 Posted February 11, 2011 Saw this on KTOG: As was said before. one of the reasons that we announce and show a model many months before it will be shipped is so that we can incorporate suggestions from potential users into the production models. We had a good number of suggestions that will help make the KSG a great product. 1. Trigger reset. This will be adjusted in the production model so that you can hold the trigger down, pump back and forward, release, and then re-pull the trigger to fire the next round. No worrying about the trigger going dead, and no Pump-firing if you hold the trigger down. 2. Pump lock switch. A new latch button is in the works that will allow the trigger finger to activate the pump lock without reaching in front of the trigger guard, and potentially getting pinched by the pump. Only the KSG in the law enforcement booth had a similar latch button, made out of welded steel, but the production model will be a polymer button pinned to the steel. 3. a removable rail mounted hand-stop will be available (and probably included) to help alleviate fears of sliding your hand too far forward in front of the barrel. 4. indicator holes in the top of the magazine tubes so you can visually see when you have 0, 1, or 2 rounds left in a tube. The following are accessories that will likely be offered after KSG production ramps up. 1. Extended butt pads. This would be similar to the SU-16 extended pad. Remove some screws and replace the existing pad with the thicker pad. 2. Choke adapter. remove the end muzzle nut, and replace with the choke adapter. this will extend a few inches in front of the existing barrel. 3. breacher attachment. Similar to the choke adapter, just designed for LE use as a door breacher. 4. Single point sling mount. The other common suggestion was to swap the way the safety works, but this is unlikely to happen do to the nature of the bullpup style trigger mechanism in the KSG. The KSG is designed to use the thumb to push the safety from left to right in order to enable the gun to fire. Other shotguns have the safety near the trigger and use the trigger finger to push the safety from right to left to enable them to fire. perhaps a reverse safety could be an accessory in the future. http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1296065107 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted February 11, 2011 Wow... sweet. I want one more now. I wonder if they'll make some sort of recoil-reducing stock for it in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted February 14, 2011 Wow... sweet. I want one more now. This is EXACTLY what I thought after I just read that...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites