Pa. man brings pistol, hollow-point bullets to Oyster Creek power plant

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LACEY — Authorities in New Jersey say a Pennsylvania man had a pistol and hollow-point bullets when he drove through the front gate of the nation's oldest nuclear power plant.

 

Lacey Township police say Charles Vance of Lititz, Pa., was visiting the Oyster Creek nuclear plant on business.

 

Lt. James Veltri told the Asbury Park Press security personnel found a loaded .32-caliber pistol and hollow-point bullets while inspecting the vehicle.

 

Veltri said Vance's gun permit had expired.

 

Vance was charged with unlawful possession of a weapon and possession of hollow-point bullets.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/pa_man_brings_pistol_hollow-po.html

 

So.... he had a NJ Carry Permit? O_o

[JonF 79]

He may have had a PA carry permit since he was a resident of Litiz, PA, hoever it was expired. Moot fact though since the permit is NG here. Sounds like he may not have been appropriately informed as to the facts of carry and reciprocity. But now he has other things to worry about.

[BRN169 6]

It is amazing when you read the comments of those not burdened with New Jersey's gun laws. It is almost incomprehensible for them to understand what is wrong... Must be nice to live in a free state.

 

 

randyright February 09, 2011 at 9:01AM

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What were his intentions? Since he had a permit he is a law abiding citizen, If it was expired maybe it was just an oversght on his part. If he did not comit any crimes with the gun then advise him to renew his permit and give his gun and bullits back and tell him to keep it locked in his trunk until he gets his updated permit.

 

bowhrad February 09, 2011 at 11:39AM

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And what exactly did he do wrong, forgot to renew his PA carry permit? Had a gun in his car, which is perfectly legal for a PA resident. Hollowpoint = dangerous? (Any bullet is dangerous!) Wow, the horror. New Jersey is great for nabbing unsuspecting white guys who are stupid when it comes to understanding their Draconian gun laws, yet they can't curtail crime in the inner cities like Paterson, Passaic, Trenton, Newark or Camden worth a hoot. I'm sure with this nab everyone is patting themselves on their backs so much they've broken a few arms. A recent shooting of a police officer in Paramus is an indication that gun crimes are no longer limited to the inner cities. But let's stop those onerous PA residents who unknowingly bring their guns to New Jersey. They're the real criminals!

 

metamorpho February 09, 2011 at 11:42AM

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Geez, I just realized this happened in NJ. That guy is hosed.

 

njskimlatte February 09, 2011 at 1:03PM

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The wonderful, fact filled, fully researched story states the gun and bullets were found upon inspection of the vehicle. It doesn't state if they were in the PA resident's car trunk, or inside the car. Big difference.

[vjf915 456]

Sounds like he may not have been appropriately informed as to the facts of carry and reciprocity.

Nobody is obligated to "inform" him of laws regarding carrying and states reciprocity. Ignorance is not an excuse.

[BRN169 6]

Nobody is obligated to "inform" him of laws regarding carrying and states reciprocity. Ignorance is not an excuse.

 

I would imagine at some point the disparity between the climate in the majority of states that respect people's second amendment rights and those that do not like New Jersey is going to cause a problem. There are people that grew up in states like South Carolina, West Virginia, Texas, etc. with guns in the main stream that can not even digest what NJ's laws are about. They actually think the laws are designed to fight crime not to deter the free exercise of one’s civil rights. I think the situation is going to come to a head and soon where you are going to see some preemption on the state ability to create laws more restrictive than the federal laws and laws that will create federal standards by which each state will be compelled to abide. You simply can not have a fundamental right of a free citizen treated with such drastically inverse regulations between the states.

 

Imagine if NJ banned crotch-rockets or two seat sports cars or cars with more than 6 cylinders from the public roads because x number of people were killed by them each year. Then proceeded to routinely criminally prosecute people that happened to drive those types of vehicles into the state of NJ because they were prohibited dangerous vehicles ruining their lives, careers and futures. Exactly how long would that last before the rest of the states dragged them back to reality via some sort of Federal legislation... The better part of %80 of the states get the meaning of the second amendment and that percentage seems to be growing every year...

[vjf915 456]

You simply can not have a fundamental right of a free citizen treated with such drastically inverse regulations between the states.

I think we can pretty much end the discussion on this note......

[mipafox 438]

I'm actually friends with more than one conservative, constitutionalist, extreme 2A supporters that were extremely pissed off that the 2A was recently incorporated against the States.

 

I dissagree with them, since I think that the People at the expense of the States is a good thing when it comes to honoring the Bill of Rights. Just pointing out that some people don't agree.

[JonF 79]

Nobody is obligated to "inform" him of laws regarding carrying and states reciprocity. Ignorance is not an excuse.

One can "inform" ones' self. In matters of higher importance, its our own personal duty to do so.

[mipafox 438]

One can "inform" ones' self. In matters of higher importance, its our own personal duty to do so.

 

True. Unless you are a cop, of course. Since they have the obligation of enforcing the laws, they are given a little leeway on breaking laws they might not be expected to understand on a day to day basis.

[vjf915 456]

One can "inform" ones' self. In matters of higher importance, its our own personal duty to do so.

Which is exactly my point.