Jeff 13 Posted March 26, 2011 I haven't seen this mentioned, so I thought I'd bring it up. I'm surprised nobody has pointed this out before, though I have to admit I didn't catch it the first time. From the State of New Jersey Application for Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and/or Handgun Purchase Permit Question 28: Are you presently, or have you ever been a member of any organization which advocates or approves the commission of acts of force and violence, either to overthrow the Government of the United States or of this State, or which seeks to deny others their rights under the Constitution of either the United States or the State of New Jersey? [emphasis added] Uh, you mean like you guys are? You know, that pesky 2nd amendment. I doubt the people who created this form even realized the irony. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted March 26, 2011 +1, good call sir. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted March 26, 2011 I've always had trouble answering no to that question, I was once registered as a Democrat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRaptor 68 Posted March 26, 2011 I've always had trouble answering no to that question, I was once registered as a Democrat. Sorry...wrong section to go political... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktm525xcatv 5 Posted March 26, 2011 Was this whole FPID thing put in place before they started brady checks? Seems like redundancy. Whats next a permit to apply for a permit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dark Knight 11 Posted March 26, 2011 How funny would it be if a pro-gun NJ judge (which is about as realistic as Santa Claus) denied a NJ police officer a gun permit. After all... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 26, 2011 Damn, best post in a while Jeff. Thanks for pointing that out to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted March 27, 2011 Was this whole FPID thing put in place before they started brady checks? Seems like redundancy. Whats next a permit to apply for a permit? They were started in 1966 I believe, and yes it's now obsolete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted March 27, 2011 Sorry...wrong section to go political... It was a joke! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRaptor 68 Posted March 27, 2011 It was a joke! Sorry, halb, I wasn't referring to your post. I had written a response, but took it out, because it was the wrong section. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianargent 7 Posted March 27, 2011 Assemblyman Carrol regularly submits bills to skip the permit and go to NICS. Generally doesn't go anywhere; but I wonder if he could get it a little further in today's budgetary economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted March 28, 2011 Assemblyman Carrol regularly submits bills to skip the permit and go to NICS. Generally doesn't go anywhere; but I wonder if he could get it a little further in today's budgetary economy. Well, that's how we need to sell it to the public. Do you think your town is making money on the $2 per permit they get? The $18 MO goes to the NJSP. This obsolete redundant unnecessary system is costing tax payers a lot of money, money that could be better spent preventing crime or providing emergency services rather than rechecking that someone hasn't committed a crime in the last 3 months since their last round of permits, that is what NICS is for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e80hydro 120 Posted March 28, 2011 Well, that's how we need to sell it to the public. Do you think your town is making money on the $2 per permit they get? The $18 MO goes to the NJSP. This obsolete redundant unnecessary system is costing tax payers a lot of money, money that could be better spent preventing crime or providing emergency services rather than rechecking that someone hasn't committed a crime in the last 3 months since their last round of permits, that is what NICS is for. NJ lawmakers don't care about spending taxpayers money or preventing crime. We have some of the the strictest gun laws in the nation and we also have Camden, one of the biggest toilet bowls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted March 28, 2011 I'm.choking .......on the irony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downr@nge 22 Posted March 28, 2011 I've noticed that every time I read it and it always made me scratch my head for a second for the same reasons you pointed out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 13 Posted March 28, 2011 I guess this means every state gov't employee has to answer 'yes' to this question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
