OK, Someone talk me out of a .38 Super

[KpdPipes 388]

Found the basis for a .38 Super Open-class 1911 on one of the auction sites for a REALLY Sweet price. It looks like it needs some work, maybe a new barrel and trigger job, both of which i can do myself, already has an optic rail installed..all in all it SEEMS like a right place at the right time thing. Any thoughts???

[vjf915 456]

A speech to talk somebody OUT of buying a gun.....yea I don't have any of those. Go for it.

[kenw 293]

Wrong place to look for an intervention, Pipes.

[SpecialK 193]

Buy it now!

[Vlad G 345]

The first one is free, why don't you take a sample. Go on, its on the house.

[Maksim 1,504]

Is it a 1911 or a 2011? 38 Super in 1911 in Open you are kind of limiting yourself no?

 

Then again... I know nothing about open guns really or 38 super.

[Dan 177]

Don't do it. No. Forget about it.. walk away... Wait... you say it has an optics rail? A really sweet price? You are in the market for a Open Class 1911? OK just buy it. ;p

[ronhonda 86]

If it is a 1911 your call.

If it is a 2011, all depends on the price, but I would consider a 9major "open" gun. Brass is so much cheaper and if you use it in USPSA or something else, have fun finding the brass.

[Wolfy 51]

Not often I say this but your argument left me speechless.

[jermz1987 243]

John Dillinger used 38 super, and he was a criminal....... Are you a criminal KpdPipes?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I gave it a shot..

[MedicYeti 96]

I don't know much about 38 super so all I have is this:

can you get the ammo for a reasonable price at most sportig goods stores? If the answer to either is "no" then my follow up is; are you a reloader? If no still is the answer then you may want to look into something else.

That's all I have.

[Babaganoosh 192]

Isn't 38 super brass expensive as all hell?

[1563621 388]

I usually can find 38 super for 20-22 per 50. It is a sweet shooter!!! JMHO.

[vjf915 456]

John Dillinger used 38 super, and he was a criminal.......

Don't you mean .38 special?

[ivwarrior 1]

You don't want it. Too hard to find ammo, takes up soo much time to reload. Frustrating when you lose that expensive brass at the range. Just forget all about it....right after you send me the link to the auction.

[KpdPipes 388]

You guys are all heart...ill post the link..AFTER it's done. Colt Combat Elite in .38 Super..price right now 36 min from auction end is $551.00

[KpdPipes 388]

I have decided that I REALLY don't like the "15 min Rule"

[vjf915 456]

Can you explain what that is?

 

Edit: Found it and reading up on it now. Can you tel us what happened though?

[KpdPipes 388]

Every time someone makes a bid the clock resets to 15 min...if somneone waits till ONE second before it ends and makes a bid..it resets the clock. Finally won it at $675.00 + $25.00 shipping

[Ray Ray 3,566]

link?

[jermz1987 243]

Don't you mean .38 special?

 

 

John Dillinger at one point in his criminal carrear used 38 super. It was said he preferd the round becuse it went through car doors and vests beter the 45acp did. This is a photo of a gun John Dillinger used, A machine pistol 1911 with a thompshon handle in 38 super.

 

[Maksim 1,504]

that is epic winning.

[KpdPipes 388]

link?

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=231325340

 

Looks like it's going to need some work, but it can be my winter project for next year, plus that will give me time to build up componenets and work up a good load. I may keep it light and stick to Steel with it, rather than USPSA..haven't decided yet. Barrel, Bushing, Internals, Springs and a trigger job..... Brownells is going to LOVE Me this year LOL.

[vjf915 456]

John Dillinger at one point in his criminal carrear used 38 super. It was said he preferd the round becuse it went through car doors and vests beter the 45acp did. This is a photo of a gun John Dillinger used, A machine pistol 1911 with a thompshon handle in 38 super.

Wow, bravo sir

[jermz1987 243]

LOL, If you saw the movie Public Enemies you can see the gun being used by Baby Face Nelson for a moment in the Little Bohemia shootout. Heres a better pic of the 38 super machine pistol.

 

[KpdPipes 388]

I'm trying to remember if that came from Colt configured as a Machine Pistol or not

[Steve L 0]

well i know that auction ended but it was a single stack, youre not going to get the 27+ rounds most open guys will get. for steel it would be nice if you dont mind the tube for the red dot, the comp isnt all that great, but you mentioned a barrel change anyway.

here is what i have to say about 38 super. if you are not reloading dont bother with open till you do its not worth it. if you are new to reloading dont load 9 major it can be tricky you really need to know the why and why not for everything like slow vs fast powder, why a certain overall length, barrel config. ie supported chamber possibly openeing up the throat. there is many more but 38 super is much easier to load and make major, there are more powders and you dont have to load long, at least i didnt.

super brass is expensive its hard to find used brass so you have to use new and not get upset when you cant find it on the range. it gets worse when you shoot supercomp and starline is always on backorder so you have to buy more than you want to pay for cause you cant risk running out.

9 major is much more finicky and tricky, but when you know the ins and out 9major will be the way to go. so only buy 9major if you are really experienced with reloading, or you have a close friend who is willing to walk you through the steps.

[KpdPipes 388]

well i know that auction ended but it was a single stack, youre not going to get the 27+ rounds most open guys will get. for steel it would be nice if you dont mind the tube for the red dot, the comp isnt all that great, but you mentioned a barrel change anyway.

here is what i have to say about 38 super. if you are not reloading dont bother with open till you do its not worth it. if you are new to reloading dont load 9 major it can be tricky you really need to know the why and why not for everything like slow vs fast powder, why a certain overall length, barrel config. ie supported chamber possibly openeing up the throat. there is many more but 38 super is much easier to load and make major, there are more powders and you dont have to load long, at least i didnt.

super brass is expensive its hard to find used brass so you have to use new and not get upset when you cant find it on the range. it gets worse when you shoot supercomp and starline is always on backorder so you have to buy more than you want to pay for cause you cant risk running out.

9 major is much more finicky and tricky, but when you know the ins and out 9major will be the way to go. so only buy 9major if you are really experienced with reloading, or you have a close friend who is willing to walk you through the steps.

 

Thw one pictured in the above posts is from the FBI museum..it's the .38 Super Machine Pistol John Dillinger owned, NOT the one I purchased. The one I bought had no Comp, just a straight-crowned Kart Barrel. As for 27+ Rounds this is NJ, and im not going to risk my career for a game. IF I shoot uspsa with it it will be for fun with 10-rounders. Reloading, Yes i plan to, I'm not interested in 9-major and i'm well aware of the hazards with that I have a close friend who shoots 9-M open. So far I've found .38 super brass for around $150.00 per Thousand.

 

That said...i'm liking .38 Super more and more ballistics-wise. As I read more about it..I may have to build one up as an Off-duty piece.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

The 38 super was created as a self defense cartridge no?

[1563621 388]

I have 3 - 38 supers , my favorite round.