vladtepes 1,060 Posted September 1, 2013 Semi auto is in fact 1 evil feature I stand by it and will put money on it you can think what you want... but the law does not say that... the law uses "semi automatic shotgun" as a qualifier... NOT as a feature... it says IF it is a semi automatic shotgun it can NOT have the following... it does NOT say a shotgun can not have the following, and then list semi automatic the law literally says.. if it is a semi automatic shotgun... the following "evil features" apply... meaning that "semi automatic shotgun" is what causes need to review the following features... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwamp2006 1 Posted September 1, 2013 thanks vlad, i wasnt going to chance it, was more just curious. These NJ laws really make my head hurt sometimes.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Ops 1 Posted September 16, 2013 I just got a semi-auto Benelli M2 tactical shotgun with the Comfortech stock (no pistol grip). It has a capacity of 5+1. Can I increase the capacity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted September 16, 2013 I just got a semi-auto Benelli M2 tactical shotgun with the Comfortech stock (no pistol grip). It has a capacity of 5+1. Can I increase the capacity? Maybe. 6 in a magazine is the limit in Jersey, but if your gun is not made in the USA, it needs to comply with 922R if you take it out of a sporting configuration. I'm not sure there has ever been a prosecution for a violation, but it is a Federal law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monstermax77 0 Posted September 22, 2013 Is the Mossberg 930 spx illegal in NJ. It doesn't have a pistol grip at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted September 22, 2013 930 SPX is legal as long as the 5-shot models. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted September 22, 2013 Six rounds in the magazine is legal. Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted November 20, 2013 is this amazingly badass kit legal to attach to a maverick 88. My initial thought is yes. I guess the real question is....any ammo limits on pump shotguns? I know most other attachments are ok http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/05/19/adaptive-tactical-sidewinder-venom-kits/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,872 Posted November 20, 2013 Mav 88 is a pump so yes... No ammo limits on pump action guns... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted November 20, 2013 thanks. realize its gimmicky and overpriced but if i ever found it on ebay id grab it..looks like fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted November 26, 2013 thanks. realize its gimmicky and overpriced but if i ever found it on ebay id grab it..looks like fun I used to want one when I was in NJ and limited to a pump gun for any fun.. but that was before all these bullpup guns came out.. I think with I would take one of the new bullpup pump guns over this kit as it would be more balanced IMO.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indianajonze 379 Posted May 23, 2017 so...definitively, is a semi auto shotgun with a standard (non-pistol, non folding) stock and a 7+1 capacity legal in this damn state? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted May 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Indianajonze said: so...definitively, is a semi auto shotgun with a standard (non-pistol, non folding) stock and a 7+1 capacity legal in this damn state? 6+1, IIRC. I had a Mossberg 930 "Home Security Model" (4+1) which I doctored up with a new barrel and a tube extension to get 6+1 capacity. Since then, I now have a full JM Pro (9+1) in FL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Indianajonze said: so...definitively, is a semi auto shotgun with a standard (non-pistol, non folding) stock and a 7+1 capacity legal in this damn state? NO, 6 plus 1 is........... Pumps unlimited, hence for me a better HD choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted May 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Indianajonze said: so...definitively, is a semi auto shotgun with a standard (non-pistol, non folding) stock and a 7+1 capacity legal in this damn state? 6+1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted May 24, 2017 9 hours ago, T Bill said: NO, 6 plus 1 is........... Pumps unlimited, hence for me a better HD choice. with all due respect.. how many rounds of buckshot do you expect to need to stop someone? if you are that worried about capacity run a carbine with a rifle round and go to 15.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted May 24, 2017 8 hours ago, vladtepes said: with all due respect.. how many rounds of buckshot do you expect to need to stop someone? if you are that worried about capacity run a carbine with a rifle round and go to 15.. For one person, maybe not so much. But Home invasions can often come in teams of 3 or more. Assuming a double tap for each person, that would be six shells right there. At least I have my JM Pro in FL (9+1). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, HBecwithFn7 said: For one person, maybe not so much. But Home invasions can often come in teams of 3 or more. Assuming a double tap for each person, that wold be six shells right there. At least I have my JM Pro in FL (9+1). I question the wisdom of double tap with a pump shotgun.. if you are hitting center mass with 12 buck... you are very likely to stop.. the added delay in racking.. multiple shots on a single target when multiple threats are present may not be ideal.. hit one and move on.. then reassess after you have served the first helping.. I would be willing to be even with a vest on 12 gauge is going to slow you down enough to reconsider your decision to be there.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted May 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, vladtepes said: I question the wisdom of double tap with a pump shotgun.. if you are hitting center mass with 12 buck... you are very likely to stop.. the added delay in racking.. multiple shots on a single target when multiple threats are present may not be ideal.. hit one and move on.. then reassess after you have served the first helping.. I would be willing to be even with a vest on 12 gauge is going to slow you down enough to reconsider your decision to be there.. Solution, although discussion for another thread.... Saiga 12 with a drum... or a Vepr 12... with a drum. =) (in free America of course). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted May 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Maksim said: Solution, although discussion for another thread.... Saiga 12 with a drum... or a Vepr 12... with a drum. =) (in free America of course). and you will also indirectly create a nice new "open concept" living area... LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted May 24, 2017 4 hours ago, vladtepes said: I question the wisdom of double tap with a pump shotgun.. if you are hitting center mass with 12 buck... you are very likely to stop.. the added delay in racking.. multiple shots on a single target when multiple threats are present may not be ideal.. hit one and move on.. then reassess after you have served the first helping.. I would be willing to be even with a vest on 12 gauge is going to slow you down enough to reconsider your decision to be there.. That's why I have 930 "Semi autos." No need to pump. I would still want to reserve two shells for each "participant," nonetheless. Just in case I miss once, etc. And while I do have some magnum load 00 buck, I'm probably going with my standard #8 target load. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Purple Patrick 638 Posted May 24, 2017 That's why I have 930 "Semi autos." No need to pump. [emoji3] I would still want to reserve two shells for each "participant," nonetheless. Just in case I miss once, etc. And while I do have some magnum load 00 buck, I'm probably going with my standard #8 target load.Don't shoot people with birdshot broSent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted May 24, 2017 On 5/24/2017 at 7:30 AM, HBecwithFn7 said: I would still want to reserve two shells for each "participant," nonetheless. Just in case I miss once, etc. And while I do have some magnum load 00 buck, I'm probably going with my standard #8 target load Roadhouse rules: Every "participant" gets one before anyone gets seconds. And use 00 or #1 buck for humans. #8 is for gun games and rabbits. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted May 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Purple Patrick said: Don't shoot people with birdshot bro Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 7 minutes ago, High Exposure said: Roadhouse rules: Every "participant" gets one before you before anyone gets seconds. And use 00 or #1 buck for humans. #8 is for gun games and rabbits. Fair enough... Looks like I'm buying some more 00 buck... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 24, 2017 9 hours ago, High Exposure said: Roadhouse rules: Every "participant" gets one before you before anyone gets seconds. And use 00 or #1 buck for humans. #8 is for gun games and rabbits. I actually use high brass BB shot. But any high brass round INSIDE YOUR HOME will basically do the same thing. It's when you step outside that different pellets or BB's do different things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted May 25, 2017 22 hours ago, Ray Ray said: I actually use high brass BB shot. But any high brass round INSIDE YOUR HOME will basically do the same thing. It's when you step outside that different pellets or BB's do different things. High brass means nothing, you can buy high brass rounds that are less hot than wally-world bulk federal target loads https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/72279 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, glennp said: High brass means nothing, you can buy high brass rounds that are less hot than wally-world bulk federal target loads https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/72279 Mr Papp! Good find, but I still stand by my original post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted May 25, 2017 It OK Ray. This is America! I support your decision to be willfully wrong and tell us all about it! If a shotgun is your choice for HD: Low recoil/Tactical 00 or #1 buck, preferably in a Flight Control type round, is the way to go for social shotgun work inside and around typical CONUS homes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted May 25, 2017 We are talking inside the home right? At those distances (10 feet), it really doesn't matter. A head shot or center mass with even birdshot will be devistating. But if the distance is across the lawn, then those Federal Flight control wads in 00Buck OR Hornady 00Buck are TIGHT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites