Andrew 0 Posted December 18, 2011 I am a little confused over the out of state CCW and hearing quite a few different stories abou it. If I live in NJ and get a Flordia CCW can I carry in PA . Heard they might still want my home state licence . Any help with this , thanks . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted December 18, 2011 Yes, you can carry. A number of states, FL, UT, VA, AZ and others will give non-residents a permit to carry. Not all states will honor carry permits from non-residents, ie: I can not carry in SC with a FL CCW, but with FL,AZ and VA I can carry in more than 30 states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnott 5 Posted December 19, 2011 PA's reciprocity agreements can be found on the PA Attorney Generals website http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184 If you read PA's reciprocity agreement with Florida it basically says, any valid Florida CCW holder can legally carry concealed in the state of Pa. (I'm also a NJ resident and have CCW's from FL and Utah.) (As I understand your question, When you say "they" you mean PA not FL.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted December 19, 2011 I am a little confused over the out of state CCW and hearing quite a few different stories abou it. If I live in NJ and get a Flordia CCW can I carry in PA . Heard they might still want my home state licence . Any help with this , thanks . I am a little confused over the out of state CCW and hearing quite a few different stories abou it. If I live in NJ and get a Flordia CCW can I carry in PA . Heard they might still want my home state licence . Any help with this , thanks . Take a look at my Signature line, click on th FL in the CCW section, will bring you to the site with all the information you are looking for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted December 19, 2011 What is the cost to get the UT, VA and AZ ccw permits? I ask because I don't feel like it's necessarily a good idea to spend more $$ just to get rights in states I may or may not go to. For me FL is a no brainer because I frequent FL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheWombat 67 Posted December 19, 2011 What is the cost to get the UT, VA and AZ ccw permits? I ask because I don't feel like it's necessarily a good idea to spend more $$ just to get rights in states I may or may not go to. For me FL is a no brainer because I frequent FL. I completed my Utah at GunForHire (http://www.gunforhire.com/gun-classes-ccw.html) obviously other places also will do Utah. For Utah you need to attend a 3-4 hour classroom based training. At GFH they do everything for you - i.e. run the course (you have to attend!), take your prints, photos, notary the form, send it to Utah with correct payment etc. The cost if getting your Utah through GFH is $200. MrsWombat and I both received our Utah within about 6 weeks from applying. We also applied for our Florida at the same time. The reason we have both is that they expire at different times (Utah is 5 years, Florida is 7 years IIRC) so you should always be covered by one or other for the majority of states. The coverage is a little different between the two. Can't comment on VA and AZ however these are on my to-do list (just fairly low down in the priorities!) hth TheWombat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted December 19, 2011 What is the cost to get the UT, VA and AZ ccw permits? I ask because I don't feel like it's necessarily a good idea to spend more $$ just to get rights in states I may or may not go to. For me FL is a no brainer because I frequent FL. Can't remember off the top of my head, but both VA and AZ were cheaper than FL, but I like having all three, it does cover me for more states, plus if by chance I let one laps by accident they all renew at different times so I would have a better chance of being covered. Plus I do travel and visit a lot of states on my bike, so I can use the extra coverage anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted December 19, 2011 I think AZ and VA were both around $60. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabricator 0 Posted December 19, 2011 I just seen on Fox news a couple of weeks ago that the city of Philadelphia will not honor Florida ccw, they pass a law two months ago. And now they are upset with national ccw and said they would be ready to fight it if it passes congress. If the state of Pennsylvania has agreement with Florida how can the city of Philadelphia pass a law saying they with not honor it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,128 Posted December 19, 2011 ... If the state of Pennsylvania has agreement with Florida how can the city of Philadelphia pass a law saying they with not honor it. Mayor Nutjob and his Corrupt Council of Fools can do anything they want. Ultimately, it will be up to the PA Supreme Court (headed by former Phila DA Ron Castille) to slap them down. Who wants to be the test case?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnott 5 Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I just seen on Fox news a couple of weeks ago that the city of Philadelphia will not honor Florida ccw, they pass a law two months ago. And now they are upset with national ccw and said they would be ready to fight it if it passes congress. If the state of Pennsylvania has agreement with Florida how can the city of Philadelphia pass a law saying they with not honor it. I tried looking for that news topic but couldn't find it through a Google search. The only thing I could find was a statement made Friday, February 18, 2011 which said that Philadelphia will not recognize out-of-state carry licenses held by Pennsylvania residents, unless the individual also holds a Pennsylvania concealed carry license. (source: forum discussion at defensivehandguns.com) (Supposedly Philly is concerned about PA residents whom they deny CCW permits to and then gain access to carry by appropriating a permit from Florida.) Philadelphia is crazy if they think they can win this one. By law the PA Attorney General is the only entity that can make or break reciprocity agreements in the state of PA. -Nutter is more than a name, it's a frame of mind. Edited December 23, 2011 by johnott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju 153 Posted December 20, 2011 Really? In Ortiz v. Commonwealth they said This argument is plainly without merit. 18 Pa.C.S. section 6120, the act limiting municipal regulation of firearms and ammunition, applies in every county including Philadelphia. Here is the actual reciprocity agreement with Florida http://www.attorneyg...20Agreement.pdf Philadelphia has multiple times tried to say that various different PA statutes and regulations somehow don't apply to them. The court has ruled every time that this argument is without merit, as they apply to ALL places within the Commonwealth of PA INCLUDING Philadelphia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 0 Posted December 20, 2011 Thanks for all the info . So it seems like Phil is just trying to overstep its bounds . I can understand there point about CCW permits they turned down but this is not the way to handle it . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabricator 0 Posted December 20, 2011 I will see in i can find it on myfoxphilly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrjam2jab 9 Posted December 20, 2011 Can't remember off the top of my head, but both VA and AZ were cheaper than FL, but I like having all three, it does cover me for more states, plus if by chance I let one laps by accident they all renew at different times so I would have a better chance of being covered. Plus I do travel and visit a lot of states on my bike, so I can use the extra coverage anyway. AZ = $60 initial/$43 renewal VA = $100 initial and renewal You folks in NJ have to get the more expensive FL permit if you want to carry in FL. FL is one of those states that only recognize Resident permits. I tried looking for that news topic but couldn't find it through a Google search. The only thing I could find was a statement made Friday, February 18, 2011 which said that Philadelphia will not recognize out-of-state carry licenses held by Pennsylvania residents, unless the individual also holds a Pennsylvania concealed carry license. (source: forum discussion at defensivehandguns.com) (Supposedly Philly is concerned about PA residents whom they deny CCW permits to who then gain access to carry by appropriating a permit from Florida.) Philadelphia is crazy if they think they can win this one. By law the PA Attorney General is the only entity that can make or break reciprocity agreements in the state of PA. -Nutter is more than a name, it's a frame of mind. Here is the Ordinance in question: http://legislation.phila.gov/attachments/11105.pdf It is completely illegal and unenforceable. Philly makes up their own issuing criteria and have been known to deny a LTCF to people with parking tickets. So rather than having to deal with the Philly corruption folks apply to more reasonable states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted December 20, 2011 Take a look at my Signature line, Aw, it doesn't say what kind of soda u like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted December 20, 2011 "You folks in NJ have to get the more expensive FL permit if you want to carry in FL. FL is one of those states that only recognize Resident permits." Where'd u get that ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted December 20, 2011 "You folks in NJ have to get the more expensive FL permit if you want to carry in FL. FL is one of those states that only recognize Resident permits." Where'd u get that ! the only non-resident permits FL accepts are the non-resident permits they issue. In other words, if you are a New Jersey resident and get an AZ or UT non resident permit, you still can't carry in FL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabricator 0 Posted December 20, 2011 I found it i don't know how to add a link to a post so i will copy and past it. Just click on the video. http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/fox-29-investigates%3A-philly-gun-permits- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted December 20, 2011 the only non-resident permits FL accepts are the non-resident permits they issue. In other words, if you are a New Jersey resident and get an AZ or UT non resident permit, you still can't carry in FL. Sorry, misunderstood! Yeh, $65 + $42 for fingerprint processing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites