CAM 5 Posted May 5, 2012 Does anyone know of an FFL in NJ that will take shipment for a AR with this stock and modify it as per this article and transfer ownership to me? NJ is so so so exhausting with this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted May 6, 2012 Does anyone know of an FFL in NJ that will take shipment for a AR with this stock and modify it as per this article and transfer ownership to me? NJ is so so so exhausting with this! arms and ammo in south jersey does that type of work.. he is a forum sponsor.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAM 5 Posted May 14, 2012 arms and ammo in south jersey does that type of work.. he is a forum sponsor.. Thanks buddy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centuri0n 0 Posted January 3, 2013 I have an AR15 stock that's double pinned (one pin on each side of the adjustment slide). Unfortunately, the pinned position is all the way back, making the stock too long for me. Any advice on the best manner to re-pin the stock? Here are some pix: Any info you can provide is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted January 3, 2013 tap them out? careful, b.c if you remove the pins, you will temp be in possession of an assault weapon (assuming the rest of the rifle is in your possession...) be it will only be for a VERY short time, its still considered illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted January 3, 2013 My humble opinion is that this will not pass muster. 2 reasons. 1 it is reversable, not permanant. They look for a blind pin. Blind pins are reversible... Or at least removable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centuri0n 0 Posted January 3, 2013 tap them out? careful, b.c if you remove the pins, you will temp be in possession of an assault weapon (assuming the rest of the rifle is in your possession...) be it will only be for a VERY short time, its still considered illegal. They don't go all the way through so I can't tap them out/through the other side. I'm was thinking of trying to remove them with a screw extractor or similar, but they're too small methinx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattH 0 Posted January 3, 2013 If you have the whole rifle in your possession I'd suggest taking to an FFL and having them re-pin it for you at the proper length this way there is no question of you being in possession of an AW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted January 3, 2013 If you have the whole rifle in your possession I'd suggest taking to an FFL and having them re-pin it for you at the proper length this way there is no question of you being in possession of an AW. this, esp after posting about it here. i know its a PITA but it is what it is and there are LEO that browse the site looking for stuff like this. you always want to be 100% safe and obey they law to its fullest extent. No need to be an example to show antis how "easy" it is to get your hands on a AW..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centuri0n 0 Posted January 3, 2013 If you have the whole rifle in your possession I'd suggest taking to an FFL and having them re-pin it for you at the proper length this way there is no question of you being in possession of an AW. Good call... I'll do that. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azmaveth 1 Posted January 3, 2013 Good call... I'll do that. Thanks! Or you could just give your upper to some to hold for you while you do the pinning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyboyeee 66 Posted January 3, 2013 "does the stock telescope? NO does the stock fold? NO unless there is LAW adding to that criteria... anything else is moot.." Again your missing the point. Will you win in court? Maybe. Why roll the dice. LE looks for a blind pin........... I bet they don't even look at all. Love to see where someone was actually popped for this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amurr 0 Posted January 4, 2013 Can you use this method on the mgapul STR stock as well? Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azmaveth 1 Posted January 4, 2013 Can you use this method on the mgapul STR stock as well? Thanks I believe the STR shares the same locking mechinism as the CTR so you should be able to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishNJ 2 Posted January 5, 2013 yes. you need to drill out the rivets holding the storage compartments on to get to the roll pins as in the photos. either re re-rivet or replace with button head screws. beyond that, its all the same. i think i needed a slightly smaller diameter dowel pin, 3/16". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plode 0 Posted January 5, 2013 Is there a reason why people use two pins as opposed to only one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 31, 2014 does anyone have the statute, or law, and/or wording concerning stocks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted July 31, 2014 does anyone have the statute, or law, and/or wording concerning stocks? this is the wording that is relevant.. it is unclear.. A. semi-automatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following: a folding or telescoping stock; a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a bayonet mount; a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and a grenade launcher; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 31, 2014 this is the wording that is relevant.. it is unclear.. that was quick!! thanks man! it's unclear, yet clear at the same time, if that's the only reference to these things. it's unclear, as they don't specify just how to make it not be telescoping. it's also very clear, as it seems that by the words of the law, that is all that matters, regardless of how one gets there. that all said.....i wouldn't want to be the guy going through court to test that, lolol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted July 31, 2014 that was quick!! thanks man! it's unclear, yet clear at the same time, if that's the only reference to these things. it's unclear, as they don't specify just how to make it not be telescoping. it's also very clear, as it seems that by the words of the law, that is all that matters, regardless of how one gets there. that all said.....i wouldn't want to be the guy going through court to test that, lolol essentially the tube has to be locked to the stock in some manner to prevent its movement. IMO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted July 31, 2014 essentially the tube has to be locked to the stock in some manner to prevent its movement. IMO so simply disabling, or locking the release mechanism wouldn't cut the ice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnlikelyShooter 3 Posted December 17, 2021 Sad to report that the locking mech on the Magpul CTR has changed (Not surprising) since the original posting nearly a decade ago. A 1/4" X 3/4" rod/dowel no longer fits in place of the spring. Just ordered some 3/16" X 3/4" dowels to see if they will work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites