Old Bridge - Barricades - Storage

[Ronky 1]

As a reference, please see ... ... ...

... ... ... if you are unfamiliar with the VTAC barricade.

 

Most, if not all, of the classes I've attended (Telluric Group, Viking Tactics, Defoor and Redback One) use either the VTAC barricade or something quite similar in training drills. Once I've gotten my 2012 sea legs at Old Bridge, I'd like to use barricades during some practice sessions. Does anyone ever run these, or something similar there?

 

Not sure what club policy is, but is there a way to store these on-site? I'd be more than happy to provide the material and labor to get a few built ... And maybe stash them somewhere for all to enjoy and practice with. These really are a great training aid.

 

For those in the know, is this even possible?

 

Thanks,

Ronky

[Ronky 1]

Forgot to mention ... The other nice benefit to this training evolution ... When timed / scored by a buddy ... It reinforces proper safety engagement and manipulation (something that I view as important at a "group" shooting facility). If you notice in the video, Dan engages his safety prior to moving from port to port, then disengages only when he's got a proper sight picture.

[Smokin .50 1,907]

As a reference, please see ... ... ...

... ... ... if you are unfamiliar with the VTAC barricade.

 

Most, if not all, of the classes I've attended (Telluric Group, Viking Tactics, Defoor and Redback One) use either the VTAC barricade or something quite similar in training drills. Once I've gotten my 2012 sea legs at Old Bridge, I'd like to use barricades during some practice sessions. Does anyone ever run these, or something similar there?

 

Not sure what club policy is, but is there a way to store these on-site? I'd be more than happy to provide the material and labor to get a few built ... And maybe stash them somewhere for all to enjoy and practice with. These really are a great training aid.

 

For those in the know, is this even possible?

 

Thanks,

Ronky

 

Looks interesting. Question: Are you a member of Old Bridge? And can you give me your name & info so I can let the Board of Trustees know of your offer. It's up to them to say what & how things get used there.

 

Dave Rosenthal, Member

Board of Trustees OBR&PC

[Mr.G 8]

And if its not "club property" can we (OBRPC members) use it as well and not just Ronky and/or club events? ;-)

Stress honor system to take care of it and replace/repair if damaged.

 

Btw, thanks for naming training facilities. We only have a handful in this state and not many offer such course.

[jvheitz 5]

we used one similar to this at the obrams multigun in october

[Smokin .50 1,907]

And if its not "club property" can we (OBRPC members) use it as well and not just Ronky and/or club events? ;-)

Stress honor system to take care of it and replace/repair if damaged.

 

Btw, thanks for naming training facilities. We only have a handful in this state and not many offer such course.

I need the party making the offer to build them to let me know who they are so I can invite them to our Board of Trustees meeting. That's the first step. Then we as a Board take everything into consideration and then make a ruling.

 

I'll tell you all right now the thing I'm most worried about is leaving this/these things unattended without chaining them down into a storage area or stowing them in a trailer. Some lazy %&^* is liable to use one or more of them as a target backer and staple paper targets to it! Not a matter of IF, just WHEN it's going to happen! Guys that do rifle side matches and/or 3-Gun would love to use something like this. If we can make it work and it will benefir the Club I'm all for it. It needs to be approved.

 

Dave

[Jim Norman 5]

This is really very simple.

 

If you are a mamber of OB, you can bring this with you and your can take it home when you are finished for the day.

 

If you are not a member, you need to be escorted in and under the supervision of a member and no, you cannot leave this on the range.

 

If you are a member and would like to contribute to the club, you should look to the varioius shooting discilines and see if they have a need/desire for this prop. Regardless, if it is a prop, it cannot be used except by the disciplines. If it not a prop, then it cannot be left on the range.

 

Look in upcomming issues of the club newsletter for easy to make and transport target stands. Hopefully that may help to reduce the number of incidents, admittedly fairly low, of people using inappropriate target holders on teh range, i.e., the hay bales, fences, barricades and the like.

 

Thank you

[Ronky 1]

Looks interesting. Question: Are you a member of Old Bridge? And can you give me your name & info so I can let the Board of Trustees know of your offer. It's up to them to say what & how things get used there.

 

Dave Rosenthal, Member

Board of Trustees OBR&PC

 

Not yet a member. Looking for a location closer than Easton, PA. I got sold when I read 5.56 is good-to-go in the pits (not to mention, I have great steel from MGM that I picked up after this year's Shot Show). So, as I'm understanding it, the facility would be a nice fit for the type of practice I'm most interested in (I'm not a real bench-rest guy).

 

My plan was to head down on the 12th of this month, shake some hands, and fill out an application. If you want, we could chat then???

 

Truthfully, I could always just pack these up when I was done for the day (as I've done at my "home" range). However, a) it's a pain in the a** putting them in and taking them out of the car, and b) if left for other members to enjoy, they'd definitely help push some folks to improve certain aspects of their present skill-set.

 

As far as the risk is concerned, it's just plywood. While there is some "building" involved, it's not the end of the world for me to replace. And hey, I'd like to believe other shooters observe Scout's Honor!!

[Ronky 1]

And if its not "club property" can we (OBRPC members) use it as well and not just Ronky and/or club events? ;-)

Stress honor system to take care of it and replace/repair if damaged.

 

Btw, thanks for naming training facilities. We only have a handful in this state and not many offer such course.

 

If I pay for and build it, you can use the **** out of it. My idea was sort of grounded in the whole idea of barter. If I'm permitted to "store" the barricades on-site, I'd expect to make them available to those who wish to use. Only seems fair. But yeah, it would boil down to the honor system at the end of the day.

 

If used properly, these things will take some damage. The idea isn't to pansy around with the ports. The idea is to aggressively drive the weapon as if engaging a real threat. Sometimes, depending on the barrel comp being used, some of the ply may get "splashed" and fray a bit. Par for the course. All that said, it's best if people don't intentionally shoot at it however!!

[Ronky 1]

And if its not "club property" can we (OBRPC members) use it as well and not just Ronky and/or club events? ;-)

Stress honor system to take care of it and replace/repair if damaged.

 

Btw, thanks for naming training facilities. We only have a handful in this state and not many offer such course.

 

Forgot to mention the other part, training. Yeah, I feel that. Every class I've been to has me on a plane or involved in a car trip. There are two problems as I see it, the Jedi are in high demand as instructors. Just take a look at Kyle Lamb's training schedule for 2012. Basically, it's filled with contract military classes, LE events or closed courses. The other problem is our state. Rifles needing mods to teach in NJ ... think I'll pass.

 

So anyway, I've had to travel quite a bit to enroll in some of this stuff. Oh ... while it's on my mind, Redback One (Jason Falla) will be out on Long Island this spring and summer. Jase is a great guy and runs a good class. I did it this past summer and it only took me a few hours to get out to the range on LI. Those interested should definitely check him out this year.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

If I pay for and build it, you can use the **** out of it. My idea was sort of grounded in the whole idea of barter. If I'm permitted to "store" the barricades on-site, I'd expect to make them available to those who wish to use. Only seems fair. But yeah, it would boil down to the honor system at the end of the day.

 

If used properly, these things will take some damage. The idea isn't to pansy around with the ports. The idea is to aggressively drive the weapon as if engaging a real threat. Sometimes, depending on the barrel comp being used, some of the ply may get "splashed" and fray a bit. Par for the course. All that said, it's best if people don't intentionally shoot at it however!!

 

See Post #7 That post was from the President of the club.

[Ronky 1]

This is really very simple. If you are a mamber of OB, you can bring this with you and your can take it home when you are finished for the day. If you are not a member, you need to be escorted in and under the supervision of a member and no, you cannot leave this on the range. If you are a member and would like to contribute to the club, you should look to the varioius shooting discilines and see if they have a need/desire for this prop. Regardless, if it is a prop, it cannot be used except by the disciplines. If it not a prop, then it cannot be left on the range. Look in upcomming issues of the club newsletter for easy to make and transport target stands. Hopefully that may help to reduce the number of incidents, admittedly fairly low, of people using inappropriate target holders on teh range, i.e., the hay bales, fences, barricades and the like. Thank you

 

Roger that. So, if I'm understanding what you're saying, to remain on-site an item must be a prop, designated as needed or desired by an existing discipline. And if so permitted, only the discipline may use that prop during an event. I guess the only other option is to let other interested parties know when I'd be down ... So they can help me unload the car!!

[Ronky 1]

See Post #7 That post was from the President of the club.

 

Gotcha. Storage idea nixed. If anyone has an interest in shooting and drilling with these barricades, let me know. If you're willing to help put up and break down (pack up the boards when done), you're more than welcome to use. You'll definitely notice a positive change in your skill set.

[Mr.G 8]

I'll check out that course at LI, and if my NJ compliant black rifle with 15 round magazine if it's legal to transport and shoot in NY state

 

Forgot to mention the other part, training. Yeah, I feel that. Every class I've been to has me on a plane or involved in a car trip. There are two problems as I see it, the Jedi are in high demand as instructors. Just take a look at Kyle Lamb's training schedule for 2012. Basically, it's filled with contract military classes, LE events or closed courses. The other problem is our state. Rifles needing mods to teach in NJ ... think I'll pass.

 

So anyway, I've had to travel quite a bit to enroll in some of this stuff. Oh ... while it's on my mind, Redback One (Jason Falla) will be out on Long Island this spring and summer. Jase is a great guy and runs a good class. I did it this past summer and it only took me a few hours to get out to the range on LI. Those interested should definitely check him out this year.

[XDJohnTact 49]

I think NY has 10 round mag limits?