cisurfer999 1 Posted March 29, 2012 I recently purchased a Springfield xdm handgun and a bushmaster m4a3 nj legal gun. I've been trying to get on the job and unfortunately need to start checking out of state. My father freaked out when I told him about the m4. He went on saying when they find out about me owning this gun they won't hire me because they'll think in crazy for owning it. It is NJ legal so what does everyone think about this hurting my chances getting hired anywhere as a LEO? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted March 29, 2012 The only one behaving oddly is your dad........ 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e80hydro 120 Posted March 29, 2012 Just don't run around the neighborhood naked with it and you should be alright. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted March 29, 2012 You've actually proved you arent crazy since you pasted the mental health check. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialK 193 Posted March 29, 2012 You've actually proved you arent crazy since you pasted the mental health check. They let me pass too though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted March 29, 2012 I really wouldn't worry about it as long as everything is legal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted March 29, 2012 I recently purchased a Springfield xdm handgun and a bushmaster m4a3 nj legal gun. I've been trying to get on the job and unfortunately need to start checking out of state. My father freaked out when I told him about the m4. He went on saying when they find out about me owning this gun they won't hire me because they'll think in crazy for owning it. It is NJ legal so what does everyone think about this hurting my chances getting hired anywhere as a LEO? As far as I'm concerned (and I say this with the highest level of respect), you have to be a little bit "crazy" to put your life on the line each and every day, with so little thanks and so little respect from the public anymore, not to mention the bad-guys trying their damnest to ruin your day. Good luck and I hope things work out for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted March 29, 2012 Your dad's stupid. Confirm your suspicions from teenagerdom and move on. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maideneddie 35 Posted March 29, 2012 As far as I'm concerned (and I say this with the highest level of respect), you have to be a little bit "crazy" to put your life on the line each and every day, with so little thanks and so little respect from the public anymore, not to mention the bad-guys trying their damnest to ruin your day. Good luck and I hope things work out for you. How in the world does this opinion answer the op's question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrym 19 Posted March 29, 2012 I recently purchased a Springfield xdm handgun and a bushmaster m4a3 nj legal gun. I've been trying to get on the job and unfortunately need to start checking out of state. My father freaked out when I told him about the m4. He went on saying when they find out about me owning this gun they won't hire me because they'll think in crazy for owning it. It is NJ legal so what does everyone think about this hurting my chances getting hired anywhere as a LEO? Some agencies have firearms related questions on their personal history statement, and some don't. I know from someone who just when through the NJSP recruitment song and dance, that they do. From the ones that I have been doing out of state, the question hasn't even come up yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted March 29, 2012 How in the world does this opinion answer the op's question? It doesn't. It's intent was to give the OP an atta-boy for going down the path he's choosing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenzoS 100 Posted March 29, 2012 Your dad's stupid. Confirm your suspicions from teenagerdom and move on. That's several years worth of therapy in one perfect bite. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted March 29, 2012 I thought he meant it was cause & effect and was going to ask where to get in line. Nevermind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cisurfer999 1 Posted March 29, 2012 Thanks everyone for your answers and yes on all of the out of state apps I have done the question has never come up but when I did the background for mercer county alt route the question came up and they wanted serial numbers as well but at that time I didn't own any Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted March 29, 2012 Thanks everyone for your answers and yes on all of the out of state apps I have done the question has never come up but when I did the background for mercer county alt route the question came up and they wanted serial numbers as well but at that time I didn't own any Answered already on the other forum.....just realize something that we as "Gun Guys' are the minority in LE..it's about a 30/40/20 mix. 30% are Shooters, and have Guns, 40% dont care one way or the other..arent for OR Against, and about 20% think that them "Lowly Civilians" shouldnt own any guns at all..of course THOSE types are usually also the ones who never carry off-duty, or shoot when they are not getting paid to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cisurfer999 1 Posted March 29, 2012 Yeah very true. Well I'm definitely part of the 40% and hopefully I get picked up soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cisurfer999 1 Posted March 29, 2012 Actually 30% haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted March 29, 2012 Some agencies have firearms related questions on their personal history statement, and some don't. I know from someone who just when through the NJSP recruitment song and dance, that they do. From the ones that I have been doing out of state, the question hasn't even come up yet. Henry, I'll take a stab at that reasoning that since everybody outside of the People's Republic has guns and uses them and considers them a "normal" part of our culture and heritage, that it would merely be a "given" to own firearms and be decent with them, therefore not worth even mentioning on any test like you descibe.......... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted March 29, 2012 Just don't run around the neighborhood naked with it and you should be alright. Ray Ray been spotted again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted March 29, 2012 Answered already on the other forum.....just realize something that we as "Gun Guys' are the minority in LE..it's about a 30/40/20 mix. 30% are Shooters, and have Guns, 40% dont care one way or the other..arent for OR Against, and about 20% think that them "Lowly Civilians" shouldnt own any guns at all..of course THOSE types are usually also the ones who never carry off-duty, or shoot when they are not getting paid to do so. Soooo true. I am the " buff" because I like guns and shoot outside of work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted March 30, 2012 Ray Ray been spotted again? I wear my underwear when I do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted March 30, 2012 You need to take your father shooting with you and show him the error in his ways.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cisurfer999 1 Posted March 30, 2012 Yeah and the funny thing is he hunts deer every year has 2 308s and 2 shotguns ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeL417 33 Posted March 30, 2012 My advice. When your investigator for your background comes around don't let him anywhere near your father.... He will kill your chances haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e80hydro 120 Posted March 30, 2012 Yeah and the funny thing is he hunts deer every year has 2 308s and 2 shotguns ha I may have met him at the range. He was shooting a bolt action, and looked at me in disgust because I was shooting an AR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted March 30, 2012 Answered already on the other forum.....just realize something that we as "Gun Guys' are the minority in LE..it's about a 30/40/20 mix. 30% are Shooters, and have Guns, 40% dont care one way or the other..arent for OR Against, and about 20% think that them "Lowly Civilians" shouldnt own any guns at all..of course THOSE types are usually also the ones who never carry off-duty, or shoot when they are not getting paid to do so. You got me curious, what's the other 10%? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted March 30, 2012 You got me curious, what's the other 10%? The +/- is my guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cisurfer999 1 Posted March 30, 2012 I may have met him at the range. He was shooting a bolt action, and looked at me in disgust because I was shooting an AR. Nah it's a semi and a lever action. I don't think he has anything against ARs. If my buddy bought one he would think its cool and want to shoot it but he keeps telling me to wait until after I get hired so they don't see it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted March 31, 2012 You got me curious, what's the other 10%? meant 30/50/20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted April 1, 2012 I've been trying to get on the job and unfortunately need to start checking out of state. That sounds like a really good idea. Let's face it, this may be one of your last good chances to leave Jersey. Job in hand. Once you take a police job in Jersey you are not going anywhere for quite some time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites