zoid 24 Posted April 3, 2012 I'm actually asking cause my thought is if your gun can shoot a couple boxes of crappy stuff then it should be able to shoot everything else. So what are the worst brands of ammo out there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pepsi71ocean 2 Posted April 3, 2012 Depending on what gun your using, but i believe that its best to not try and kill yourself by shooting bad ammo. Thats paramount to shooting some of that Indian, and Israeli ammo out of my 2,000 dollar M-14. Its not worth saving 10 cents a round, and watching it go click-bang. I have seen what happens when you go click and then it goes bang 3 seconds later with a 8mm mauser, and its a scary though to think what if i opened or cycled the bolt to try and hit that primer again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kram 3 Posted April 3, 2012 IMO the crappiest ammo that I have experience with is Ultramax ammo (sold locally at Dicks). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted April 3, 2012 The ones you find at the range in a clear plastic bag that were clearly reloaded by a man with lego blocks for brains. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tt-33 8 Posted April 3, 2012 remington .22 the green box Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleshka 0 Posted April 3, 2012 PPU 380 ACP - had to double strike every other round. And if it fires the whole gun is covered in unburned powder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted April 3, 2012 The ones you find at the range in a clear plastic bag that were clearly reloaded by a man with lego blocks for brains. You mean the stuff Bubba made while drinking isn't on par with Winchester ammo? If you really want to test a gun, which I wouldn't recommend, try steel cased, or surplus ammo. Although some Surplus ammo is pretty good. My WWII era Vz24 outshot a $2,000 Weatherby .30-06 at 100 yards firing 50 year old Romanian ammo, without a scope, and with some of the lousiest sights I've ever seen. It can sometimes be hard to call, in my oppinion, with surplus ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyG 36 Posted April 3, 2012 lol theres a difference between least reliable ammo and playing Russian roulette with your hand shooting some random persons reloads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted April 3, 2012 I'm actually asking cause my thought is if your gun can shoot a couple boxes of crappy stuff then it should be able to shoot everything else. So what are the worst brands of ammo out there? Your reasoning is crap. Bad ammo is bad ammo because it has things like squibs, overcharges, double charges, bullets that set back and other fun stuff. No gun will run on squibs. No gun will tolerate double charges. You prove nothing about your gun's reliability by running crap through your gun. The ammo is unreliable because of a problem with the ammo. It's not like there's a magic gun that puts missing powder back in, fixes bullet setback, checks for double charges and other such things. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
when_shtf 4 Posted April 3, 2012 There is so much to this question that it's damn near impossible to answer. There is ammo of poor quality and defective (like raz-O mentioned above; squibs, overcharges, double charges...) that just shouldn't be chambered. Then there is the ammo that your firearm just won't tolerate. It may fire fine in your buddies weapon but your weapon rejects it. Then there is ammo that is not consistently accurate. Then there is dirty ammo. So I have to put the question back to you; what is your level of tolerance for crappy ammo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted April 3, 2012 worst ammo ever? probably remington thunderbolt .22lr. in fact, I haven't really been happy with remington anything besides .223. and I still like wolf better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoid 24 Posted April 3, 2012 Your reasoning is crap. Bad ammo is bad ammo because it has things like squibs, overcharges, double charges, bullets that set back and other fun stuff. No gun will run on squibs. No gun will tolerate double charges. You prove nothing about your gun's reliability by running crap through your gun. The ammo is unreliable because of a problem with the ammo. It's not like there's a magic gun that puts missing powder back in, fixes bullet setback, checks for double charges and other such things. I think you're not understanding my question or what I'm trying to say. Obviously I don't want to test my gun with a double charge... come on. I mean more like stuff that's just less tight in tolerances or harder for some guns to cycle, however, STILL SAFE. I'm referring to stuff more like aluminum blazer, or as people had mentioned, steel case ammo and the likes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted April 4, 2012 What caliber you asking about. If .22LR, the Remington is the worse ammo ever made. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted April 4, 2012 What caliber you asking about. If .22LR, the Remington is the worse ammo ever made. I'm surprised by that, I always figured Remington would make good ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted April 4, 2012 I'm surprised by that, I always figured Remington would make good ammo. Their 9mm ammo is fine. 98% of the people that use their .22LR ammo has issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted April 4, 2012 Their 9mm ammo is fine. 98% of the people that use their .22LR ammo has issues. That's odd, I'd figure that if you could make one type, you'd be able to do another. Ammos vary, but the same premise is pretty much the same. Perhaps they suck at having the bullet allign with the rim, or their primers are crappy? This is quite curious haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted April 4, 2012 IMO the crappiest ammo that I have experience with is Ultramax ammo (sold locally at Dicks). My opinion as well. Throw in the PPU stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted April 4, 2012 POF (Paki) .303 brit. %90 were hangfires, %7 duds, %3 went off normal. Accuracy blew but it sure was good training to catch flinching. It was like firing a flintlock, CLICK BOOM every time lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qel Hoth 33 Posted April 4, 2012 What caliber you asking about. If .22LR, the Remington is the worse ammo ever made. After shooting my M&P 22 on federal bulk and winchester 333 tonight, I can say for sure that yes, Remington is the worst 22lr I've tried yet. With the federal, there's almost no smoke, every round feeds and fires, and every shot cycles the gun properly. With the Winchester, there is a bit of smoke with each shot, but every round feeds, fires, and cycles properly. With the Remington, you'll think you're shooting black powder, you can spin the bullets in the case, you get yellow crap all over your hands, 5% of the rounds don't fire at all, you check for squibs another 5%, and 10% don't send the slide far enough back to strip the next round... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoid 24 Posted April 4, 2012 Yes, I'd say if your 22 feeds RemingTURD then it should shoot everything. My 22 1911 conversion will shoot it but I've had several rounds that fail to extract and you have to take the whole slide off to get it out. That's kind of the comparo I was looking for centerfire. I've actually shot the Umarex stuff out of my Kimber just fine so I guess it kinda passed the test. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted April 5, 2012 POF (Paki) .303 brit. %90 were hangfires, %7 duds, %3 went off normal. Accuracy blew but it sure was good training to catch flinching. It was like firing a flintlock, CLICK BOOM every time lol What the hell is the point of making ammunition like this? I mean, maybe it just hasn't aged well, but at that point you're better off equiping your army with slings and stones haha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted April 5, 2012 It was universally stored poorly, that's all. It was legit cordite ammo too but the issue was the primers not cordite. If you let them Sit in the sun they got a little better lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigHayden 77 Posted April 18, 2012 in fact, I haven't really been happy with remington anything besides .223. and I still like wolf better You've never shot GoldenSabers, have you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBowTies88 41 Posted April 18, 2012 I have, didn't care for them at all. Muzzle flash was way worse then anything else i've shot in .38spl. I have sensitive eye's to bright light.... the last thing I need is to be blinded by my own defensive gun on the first shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted April 18, 2012 What the hell is the point of making ammunition like this? I mean, maybe it just hasn't aged well, but at that point you're better off equiping your army with slings and stones haha. It's called surplus for a reason. SOme surplus is jsut old inventory, some is REALLY old inventory, some is not so old but just being surplussed to cycle in fresh stock, some is surplus because it doesn't meet specs, and some is suplus because it is downright dangerous. Heck, we all thing xm193 is decent stuff now. Back when the surplus 193 was REALLY cheap, you didn't buy the bulk xm193PD boxes because they were questionable. mangled case necks, Severely dented shoulders, blowing out primers, etc. You can probably still find pics online of the infamous pretzel (dunno if that was ever confirmed legit). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJScott 15 Posted April 18, 2012 After running four boxes of Winchester White .45's through my Taurus 1911 with zero issues, I tried a box of Aguila; first time I experienced FTF's and FTE's, two each--in a box of 50rds, in this gun. I just shot a box of Remington UMC through her and had no problems, so I'm calling the Aguila crapola. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duppie 73 Posted April 18, 2012 IMO the crappiest ammo that I have experience with is Ultramax ammo (sold locally at Dicks). I've run 200 rounds of Ultramax through my CZ75B without an issue but they are supposedly known for their forgiving nature, however I wouldn't even attempt them in my Sig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted April 18, 2012 +1 to the nth power on Remington .22LR. That green box now makes me flinch. When I see this: I think this: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted April 18, 2012 After running four boxes of Winchester White .45's through my Taurus 1911 with zero issues, I tried a box of Aguila; first time I experienced FTF's and FTE's, two each--in a box of 50rds, in this gun. I just shot a box of Remington UMC through her and had no problems, so I'm calling the Aguila crapola. If you can find federal champion .45 its been running in my 1911 with out a hickup, might be worth it if you can find a steady cheap supply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ajtesq 11 Posted April 18, 2012 My personal opinion, the worst centerfire ammo I've ever used was 9mm from USAAmmo. Inconsistent, primer issues, some rounds had steel casings instead of brass, etc. ( I could go on for a while before even mentioning the kabooms we've read about) The worst overall ammo is the remington .22lr's, for all the reasons above. Nothing like having 20% of it fail to fire in both an AR .22 upper and all of my .22 pistols. I'd rather buy any other brand, than receive this for free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites