Downr@nge 22 Posted November 7, 2012 So the Kane lady won the PA Attorney General election. I'm sure you've seen her campaign commercial saying she vows to close the "Florida loophole." We all know there is no loophole. My question is, since Casey got reelected there, is it within his powers to veto or stop things that Kane tries to do, like closing this imaginary gun loophole? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJScott 15 Posted November 7, 2012 We here in NJ often fantasize about crossing the Delaware to live in a "free" state, but I wonder just how close PA is to becoming as anti-2A a state as we are? Would it really take all that much to put in place Draconian gun laws, such as the ones we deal with? With Rendel, anti-gun proponents in the PA state house and now this idiot, Kane, is it really that far-fetched to think that PA would go down the same path as we did? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted November 7, 2012 The loophole is that if you were denied a CCW in PA you can apply for a FL CCW and still carry. That needs to be changed for obvious reasons. It would suck if they stopped rec FL CCWs altogether. If you live in PA you should need a PA CCW, much like Florida. If you live in FL you need a FL CCW to carry there eventhough lots of other states CCWs are recognized there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbethr 42 Posted November 7, 2012 #1 Just because she wants something doesn't mean that she is going to get it. #2. I think this just means PA residents getting Florida permits, not reciprocity in general. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruger9 0 Posted November 7, 2012 We here in NJ often fantasize about crossing the Delaware to live in a "free" state, but I wonder just how close PA is to becoming as anti-2A a state as we are? Would it really take all that much to put in place Draconian gun laws, such as the ones we deal with? With Rendel, anti-gun proponents in the PA state house and now this idiot, Kane, is it really that far-fetched to think that PA would go down the same path as we did? as with all thing regarding the fall of western civilizations, it starts in the cities and on the coasts, and moves inward. If I was able, I'd move. Arizona. Texas. Montana. PA isn't far enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 7, 2012 She has the power to do it herself. The loophole is that if you were denied a CCW in PA you can apply for a FL CCW and still carry. That needs to be changed for obvious reasons. It would suck if they stopped rec FL CCWs altogether. If you live in PA you should need a PA CCW, much like Florida. If you live in FL you need a FL CCW to carry there eventhough lots of other states CCWs are recognized there. I disagree. Despite the lies in her campaign commercials, FL requirements are stricter than PAs. Why do you think an FL license has so many more reciprocal states than a PA license? Because they have stricter requirements. So, why would somebody get denied in PA but get approved by FL? That's easy. Philly doesn't follow the law. They don't have any additional discretion or power, they just completely ignore the law and deny people for BS reasons such as parking tickets. They also illegally require all sorts of additional information, forms, notifications, that are not part of the state standardized application. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigHayden 77 Posted November 7, 2012 So the Kane lady won the PA Attorney General election. I'm sure you've seen her campaign commercial saying she vows to close the "Florida loophole." We all know there is no loophole. My question is, since Casey got reelected there, is it within his powers to veto or stop things that Kane tries to do, like closing this imaginary gun loophole? Bob Casey is a US Senator. He has no veto power in PA. You're thinking of Tom Corbett (PA Governor), who was not up for re-election this time around. The PA legislature has given the DA's office the duty to actively pursue reciprocal agreements with other states. If she tries to "close the loophole" and ends the reciprocal agreement with FL, and every other state with "looser" requirements than PA, she will be derelict in her duties and the legislature or the governor's office can act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted November 8, 2012 the reason it is lame is for someone like me.. that lives in PA but already has a valid FL CCW license... I have not gotten a PA one yet because I dont really NEED to.... the FL one is honored so why even bother.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted November 8, 2012 Yep, PA getting bluer by the year. Sure.........easy to go "Forward", MUCH harder to go backward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 8, 2012 Bob Casey is a US Senator. He has no veto power in PA. You're thinking of Tom Corbett (PA Governor), who was not up for re-election this time around. The PA legislature has given the DA's office the duty to actively pursue reciprocal agreements with other states. If she tries to "close the loophole" and ends the reciprocal agreement with FL, and every other state with "looser" requirements than PA, she will be derelict in her duties and the legislature or the governor's office can act accordingly. Oops, my bad. I forgot the other reason PA has less reciprocal states than FL. All of our AGs over the past 15 years have been derelict in their duties. Thanks for the reminder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikelets456 78 Posted November 9, 2012 the reason it is lame is for someone like me.. that lives in PA but already has a valid FL CCW license... I have not gotten a PA one yet because I dont really NEED to.... the FL one is honored so why even bother.. I live in PA as well but got a PA LTCF as well as having my FL CCW. The main reasons: 1) You can carry in a state of emergency 2) You don't have to stay 1000' from a school. I live about 750' from a school if you cut through the woods so I did not want to take a chance. Also, it took me 20 minutes and $20 to get the LCTF in PA. Also adds about 4-5 more states to compliment the FL CCW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites