1/20 - IDPA Somerset - a word to the wise

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

It would probably be prudent to include a flashlight in your range bag. Nuff said.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[Kingsoverqueens 10]

This event still sold out?

[Krdshrk 3,877]

Always have one on me anyway

[FLHX 1]

Can you use either a gun mounted or hand held light?

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

Can you use either a gun mounted or hand held light?

 

Has to be hand-held - no gun mounted lights allowed in IDPA

[checko 180]

Oh great....my first shoot. lol

[Shocker 150]

December was low light, think it will be again?

[Krdshrk 3,877]

Oh great....my first shoot. lol

 

You won't be forced to use low light/flashlight. In fact, they'll say to keep the lights on for you since you're a new shooter.

[checko 180]

You won't be forced to use low light/flashlight. In fact, they'll say to keep the lights on for you since you're a new shooter.

 

I figured. I was just joking around. It would be fun to try though.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

I think Tom is going to incorporate more low-light / no-light stages as standard fare in all matches going forward. Phillipsburg already does this. Last week (@ P-burg) we shot 8 stages - 4 outdoors, 4 indoors. Of the indoor stages, two were low-light, one was no-light (absolutely pitch dark) and one was all lights on.

 

As Nick pointed out new shooters get a pass on both lighting and concealment garments - but next time....

 

See you there on Sunday.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[SW9racer 262]

Unless I missed it in the rules, cover garments are only required if you are qualified.

[Ian S 22]

Unless I missed it in the rules, cover garments are only required if you are qualified.

 

Classified. Having shot a classifier. That said, if you can, you might as well use it to get more of the flavor of IDPA matches.

 

Tom's December results email did note that he'd be mixing in low light/no light stages in January and February.

 

 

[Ian S 22]

Of course, if you're as good as Nick, you can just throw the flashlight on the floor and light up all your targets leaving two hands to work.

[Kingsoverqueens 10]

Unless I missed it in the rules, cover garments are only required if you are qualified.

As I understand, Tom will let new shooters participate without cover garment, but only for 2 shoots. After that you must have a cover, and if you are going to shoot IDPA at Sommerset, he requires that you join the association as well.

[Krdshrk 3,877]

Of course, if you're as good as Nick, you can just throw the flashlight on the floor and light up all your targets leaving two hands to work.

 

Total accident. It worked out, otherwise I would have had to pull out my secondary flashlight.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

Unless I missed it in the rules, cover garments are only required if you are qualified.

 

There is no such exemption in the rules, that I could find. It is usually at the discretion of the club, and in the interest of safety that the cover garment rule is waived, and that is usually only for one match.

 

The only instance in which a cover garment is no required is during a classification match.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[Krdshrk 3,877]

Unclassified shooters are not required to wear a cover garment.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

Unclassified shooters are not required to wear a cover garment.

 

Nick I could find nothing in the on-line rule book that exempted unclassified shooters...

 

http://www.idpa.com/Documents/IDPARuleBook2005.pdf

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Has to be hand-held - no gun mounted lights allowed in IDPA

 

Then what are the rails on the guns for?

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

Then what are the rails on the guns for?

 

IDPA makes the rules, not the guns, Ray.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

IDPA makes the rules, not the guns, Ray.

 

International Defensive Pistol Association correct?

 

They need to get with it, pistols with railed lights have been around for a while now.

[checko 180]

International Defensive Pistol Association correct?

 

They need to get with it, pistols with railed lights have been around for a while now.

 

I think its to level the playing field for pistols without rails

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

International Defensive Pistol Association correct?

 

They need to get with it, pistols with railed lights have been around for a while now.

 

From the rule book...

 

While IDPA realizes that lights mounted on guns are very useful

for self-defense, we would have the same situation with mounted

lights that we do with ported pistols if they were allowed.

Mounted lights would become another “necessary modification” to

be competitive and that is not the purpose of IDPA. Also, the

mounting of weapons lights under the stress of competition

imposes a dangerous safety hazard.

Guns that come with light rails straight from the factory may be

used in IDPA competition AS LONG AS the gun still meets all

division criteria. However, the light itself may not be used on the

gun.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

so, they're having an event in which they are turning the lights out. and instead of making use of the rail space on your firearm for a light they want you to hold the light with the other hand? Which makes no sense, since almost every damn gun today comes with a rail.

 

IDPA needs to address this

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

I buy you books, and I buy you books, and all you do is eat the covers.

[Ian S 22]

I've never used a railed light, so how useful are they?

 

The last time I looked into buying one, the advise that stuck with me is that a railed light will go wherever your gun is pointing. And maybe you don't want to aim at everything you look at.

 

Then IDPA is geared toward CCW with a concealment holster and cover. Would you normally carry a mounted light in your CCW holster?

 

And like the rules said above, mounting the light during competition presents a safety issue. There would be a lot of too close to call muzzle sweeps of the shooter's support hand.

 

No, rails should be reserved for lasers.

[Shocker 150]

Tom said two stages will be "low light" with the targets backlit. Flashlights will be optional.

[msg73 1]

The last time I looked into buying one, the advise that stuck with me is that a railed light will go wherever your gun is pointing. And maybe you don't want to aim at everything you look at.

 

Good point. Violates the "don't point the muzzle at anything you're not willing to destroy" rule. That said, I still have a rail mounted light on my HD pistol.

[Ray Ray 3,566]

Good point. Violates the "don't point the muzzle at anything you're not willing to destroy" rule. That said, I still have a rail mounted light on my HD pistol.

 

Not really, the spread of the light makes it so that you don't have to aim the gun directly to where you want to see.

[Zell959 40]

I'm wait listed for this one unfortunately.