papercutninja 24 Posted January 18, 2013 I've truncated it below for the new tactic to label the 2nd Amendment as racist. One of the most tangental and insane arguments i've heard in a LONG time. http://truth-out.org...reserve-slavery The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that . . . and we all should be too. In the beginning, there were the militias. In the South, they were also called the "slave patrols," and they were regulated by the states. His first draft for what became the Second Amendment had said: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country [emphasis mine]: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person." But Henry, Mason and others wanted southern states to preserve their slave-patrol militias independent of the federal government. So Madison changed the word "country" to the word "state," and redrafted the Second Amendment into today's form: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State [emphasis mine], the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Little did Madison realize that one day in the future weapons-manufacturing corporations, newly defined as "persons" by a Supreme Court some have called dysfunctional, would use his slave patrol militia amendment to protect their "right" to manufacture and sell assault weapons used to murder schoolchildren. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkWVU02 47 Posted January 18, 2013 Saw this posted by a friend. Myself and someone else immediately jumped on it with quotes from our founding fathers about why the second amendment was part of the bill of rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted January 18, 2013 I have no words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delta0156 1 Posted January 18, 2013 let them speak...they sound like the asshats that they are..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted January 18, 2013 Saw this posted by a friend. Myself and someone else immediately jumped on it with quotes from our founding fathers about why the second amendment was part of the bill of rights. Make sure you're using cited quotes. I've seen a lot of falsely attributed ones floating around, specifically one by George Washington. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkWVU02 47 Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah I use the standard ones specifically a lot of Jefferson. We should pin a thread on verified quotes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted January 18, 2013 Tell that to the Deacons of Defense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju 153 Posted January 18, 2013 What is ironic is they have it nearly backwards. The intent of GUN CONTROL originally did have to do with racism against blacks... People can only lie and misrepresent things so much...I hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
va_bank 0 Posted January 18, 2013 Truthout - aren't these the same people who said Bush, Israel and aliens set up 9/11? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted January 18, 2013 What is ironic is they have it nearly backwards. The intent of GUN CONTROL originally did have to do with racism against blacks... People can only lie and misrepresent things so much...I hope. truthFirst gun laws were to keep guns away from freed African Americans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites