mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 ...um...or something... http://www.attorneyg...ss.aspx?id=6811 Not sure how this works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted February 8, 2013 Seems like if your a PA resident your non-resident florida permit won't work for you? But if your a NJ resident with a florida CCW permit you can still carry in PA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iRONman 7 Posted February 8, 2013 Seems like the language. might as well get a Arizona ccw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted February 8, 2013 It does not mention non resident, think what they did was close loophole where pa residents that were not able to get a pa permit had applied and recieved fl permit to carry in pa.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 I don't think so: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/firearms_agreement_florida_pa.pdf Now, therefore, the parties do hearby agree as follows: 1. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania shal give full faith and credit to a valid Concealed Handgun License issued by the State of Florida to legal residents of the State of Florida; and ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 8, 2013 Yep, sadly that's what it looks like. PA will only honor FL CCW licenses of FL Residents. So that leaves us PRNJ'ers with FL CCW out in the cold as far as PA goes. Death by a thousand cuts. The Alinsky way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 I would like to push FL to drop all reciprocity with PA. Even though that would hurt me, since FL does not accept non-resident licenses and I wouldn't be able to carry there anymore. However, because Fl doesn't accept non-resident licenses, I don't think they will be sympathetic to my cause of punishing PA for doing the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 It does not mention non resident, think what they did was close loophole where pa residents that were not able to get a pa permit had applied and recieved fl permit to carry in pa.. There are no PA residents that can't get a PA permit but can get a FL permit. You were lied to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted February 8, 2013 So we can still carry with a Utah? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted February 8, 2013 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Now I gotta get a Utah.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 As of now it seems that way, but I didn't check specifically. Check the reciprocity agreements here: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P4Plenty 1 Posted February 8, 2013 florida website lists pa as a 1,4,6 state now... FMLLLLLLL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 Wait a week and see what shakes out. I don't understand it all, but she may not have the authority to change the agreements in quite this manner. See if any immediate challenges come up. Also, she might announce her next target if she has one. But, yeah, we're probably boned until her ass is gone. Just my two cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 8, 2013 Makes me wonder about PA (non-Phila) OPEN carry with this change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 Makes me wonder about PA (non-Phila) OPEN carry with this change. In PA (not sure about Philly), you can carry in a car with a license from any other state. No reciprocity is required. But you would have to open carry. So, technically, I think you still can open carry on foot and in a car on a FL non-res license. Keep in mind that OC increases your chances of an encounter with police in communist areas, when pulled over, or if they see you getting out of a car with out of state plates. And, this will put a stigma on the FL license in the communist southeast of the Commonwealth and it may take a few hours in jail before they figure out you are legal. All hypothetically speaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizzzarddemon 0 Posted February 8, 2013 open carry does that mean in view or if i have an serpa lets say and a jacket over it is that open or concealed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BleedingOrange36 0 Posted February 8, 2013 open carry does that mean in view or if i have an serpa lets say and a jacket over it is that open or concealed If your jacket covers it, it's concealed. In Nevada, if you shirt covered Half of your grip it was considered concealed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizzzarddemon 0 Posted February 8, 2013 hmm glad i have a utah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notmetoo 41 Posted February 8, 2013 If PA is doing this with FL CCW licenses, what's to stop them from doing the same for other states like Utah and AZ? May be a waste of time getting those CCLs, now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 If it's completely covered then it's concealed for sure. Having your coat over it would be concealed. I'm not an expert on that sort of minutiae, there is no clear definition from what I can tell. Would revert to common law, case law, English language, commonly accepted lawyerly crap, stuff I can't pin down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizzzarddemon 0 Posted February 8, 2013 i was going to get a serpa for my 1911 but there is really no reason to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmpnj 0 Posted February 8, 2013 http://www.attorneyg...ime.aspx?id=184 Unless I'm missing something it seems that this pertains only to PA residents with a FL non res permit. It doesn't mention residents of other states, just PA. It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 8, 2013 You can lead a horse to water... http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/47896-pennsylvania-no-longer-recognizes-florida-non-res/page__view__findpost__p__628105 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwamp2006 1 Posted February 8, 2013 wait, can NJ residents go to PA and get a CCW? im new to this and dont have a clue on how the ccw works, maybe someone can me a lil crash course? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Njgunowner 2 Posted February 8, 2013 Duplicate, post here. Duplicate thread: http://njgunforums.c...__fromsearch__1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted February 8, 2013 Are there any they WILL accept? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted February 8, 2013 time to get a PA non-res CCW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted February 8, 2013 http://www.attorneyg...ime.aspx?id=184 Unless I'm missing something it seems that this pertains only to PA residents with a FL non res permit. It doesn't mention residents of other states, just PA. It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out. wrong. see#4: (4) These states will honor the Florida concealed weapon license ONLY IF the licensee is a resident of the State of Florida. http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html They closed all non-resident FL CCWs now from carrying in PA, not ONLY PA residents that have FL CCW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted February 8, 2013 And you can only get a PA non-res CCW by having a CCW from your HOME state. PRNJ? Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted February 8, 2013 damn really? that sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites