Maksim 1,504 Posted February 11, 2013 Attached is the ANJRPC summary and analysis of the bills to be considered on Wed. Call, email, write! Legislative_Analysis (2).pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrSurfboard 1 Posted February 11, 2013 I have a strong feeling the 10 round mag and internet ammo sales ban will probably pass. The others could go either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 11, 2013 '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' The Emails of the people to write to. The Safety committee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) I have a strong feeling the 10 round mag and internet ammo sales ban will probably pass. The others could go either way. And this is what would hurt us the most. And do the least to stop crime. Imagine having to pay retail prices on a box of ammo, you know prices will go up to because retailers will know they have you by the balls. Edited February 11, 2013 by j0n keeping certain things on the DL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkmanted 54 Posted February 11, 2013 this worked for me, just copy and past it [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted February 11, 2013 It's very simple even I can do it. Cut and past the addresses (use Maks's addresses because they have semi-colons between them) and just a simple statement. Add your name and address. Assembly Persons: Rather than some lengthy diatribe, I’d just like to say. NO ADDITIONAL GUN CONTROL FOR NJ. PERIOD!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sigman 41 Posted February 11, 2013 Done - thanks Maks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted February 11, 2013 Anyone have an email for Christie? I wanted to copy him on my email to this committee. disregard, I believe I found it: [email protected] ok, that email failed. does anyone have an email? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gski 1 Posted February 11, 2013 Just sent the below to all on the list. I feel so guilty about not being able to be in Trenton this Wednesday. I have a business trip that I can not cancel. Give them hell and ake them see the light. Assembly Persons: I am writing you as a concerned citizen. Simply put, the numerous bills being considered will do nothing to stop crime. They will turn ordinary law abiding citizens into criminals. It is my opinion they have been written based on emotional, feel good reasons rather than logic or a true understanding of national statistics. Law abiding gun owners do commit crimes or go on maniacal killing sprees. Criminals and the insane do! None of these bills address the real problem. Criminals need to be punished and the insane need to be institutionalized! Banning guns and limiting magazines capacities will not stop crime or save lives. These ridiculous initiatives will do just the opposite – they will put innocent people’s lives at risk. That is because the criminals and insane will not abide by these laws and will have a strong advantage over the rest us. Do you really want to be responsible for this? I am currently doing my best to let the public know the consequences of this poor legislation if it passes. Please feel free to contact me at the above email address if you care to discuss these matters more in depth. I will be happy to work with you as a New Jersey citizen and law abiding gun owner who does not want to have his writes infringed upon or made a victim. Regards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted February 11, 2013 Just sent the below to all on the list. I feel so guilty about not being able to be in Trenton this Wednesday. I have a business trip that I can not cancel. Give them hell and ake them see the light. Assembly Persons: I am writing you as a concerned citizen. Simply put, the numerous bills being considered will do nothing to stop crime. They will turn ordinary law abiding citizens into criminals. It is my opinion they have been written based on emotional, feel good reasons rather than logic or a true understanding of national statistics. Law abiding gun owners do commit crimes or go on maniacal killing sprees. Criminals and the insane do! None of these bills address the real problem. Criminals need to be punished and the insane need to be institutionalized! Banning guns and limiting magazines capacities will not stop crime or save lives. These ridiculous initiatives will do just the opposite – they will put innocent people’s lives at risk. That is because the criminals and insane will not abide by these laws and will have a strong advantage over the rest us. Do you really want to be responsible for this? I am currently doing my best to let the public know the consequences of this poor legislation if it passes. Please feel free to contact me at the above email address if you care to discuss these matters more in depth. I will be happy to work with you as a New Jersey citizen and law abiding gun owner who does not want to have his writes rights infringed upon or made a victim. Regards Well put. But, proof read! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gski 1 Posted February 11, 2013 Well put. But, proof read! Sun of a gun (no pun intended). Spell check foiled me again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted February 11, 2013 i also faxed,only 6/10 went thru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJdiverTony 27 Posted February 11, 2013 Hey guys, I took the liberty of doing a little bit of editing on the above letter and made some corrections. I hope you don't mind. Here's what I'm sending to these folks: Assembly Persons: I am writing you as an extremely concerned New Jersey citizen. Simply put, the numerous bills being considered will do absolutely nothing to stop crime. In fact, they will turn ordinary law abiding citizens into criminals overnight. It is my opinion that these bills have been written based on emotional, "feel good" reasons rather than logic or real analysis and understanding of national statistics. Law abiding gun owners do NOT commit crimes or go on maniacal killing sprees. Criminals and the insane do! None of these bills address the real issue. Criminals need to be punished and the insane need to be institutionalized and/or treated properly. Criminals will also continue to obtain guns and ammunition illegaly and these new laws would never stop them from getting them. Banning guns, limiting magazine capacities, and enacting more restrictions on law abiding gun owners will not stop crime or save lives. These proposed (and not very well thought-out) initiatives will do just the opposite... They will put innocent people’s lives at risk! Criminals and those suffering from mental health disorders will not abide by these laws and will have a strong advantage over the rest us. Do you really want to be responsible for this? I am currently doing my best to let the public know the consequences of this poor legislation if it passes. Please feel free to contact me if you care to discuss these matters more in depth. I will be happy to work with you as a very concerned New Jersey citizen and law abiding gun owner who does not want to have his rights infringed upon or be made into a victim. Best regards, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 150 Posted February 11, 2013 I've been faxing. 8/10 through so far, retrying every so often. EDIT: now 9/10. Seems some numbers are just busy. What the heck, I'll start emailing too now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted February 11, 2013 Wrote all committee members and copied my letter to Christie as well as my 2 Assemblywoman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EchoMirage 137 Posted February 11, 2013 what are the fax numbers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted February 11, 2013 i also faxed,only 6/10 went thru Done at 9/10. And another couple hrs on the computer with this stuff.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted February 11, 2013 what are the fax numbers Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31) [email protected] Phone: 201-536-7851 Fax: 201-536-7854 Gilbert L. Wilson (Vice Chair) (D5) [email protected] Phone: 856-547-4800 Fax: 856-547-5496 Nelson T. Albano (D1) [email protected] Phone: 609-465-0700 Fax: 609-465-4578 Daniel R. Benson (D14) [email protected] Phone: 609-631-0198 Fax: 609-631-0324 Sean Connors (D33) [email protected] Phone: 201-795-9190 Fax: 201-795-5290 Joseph Cryan (D20) [email protected] Phone: 908-624-0880 Fax: 908-624-0587 Sean T. Kean (R30) [email protected] Phone: 732-974-0400 Fax: 732-974-2564 Gregory P. McGuckin (R10) [email protected] Phone: 732-840-9028 Fax: 732-840-9757 Erik Peterson (R23) [email protected] Phone: 908-238-0251 Fax: 908-238-0256 Charles Mainor (Chair) (D31) David P. Rible (R30) [email protected] Phone: 732-974-0400 Fax: 732-974-2564 Bonnie Watson Coleman (D15) [email protected] Phone: 609-292-0500 Fax: 609-633-2179 ETA- btw this particular info is from a ANJRPC email, and they have actually been stepping up to the plate lately in the infowars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted February 11, 2013 For the mag limits, here is something logical that I hope these legislators can understand.... When a criminal or maniac plans to illegally acquire a gun for the purpose of using in to commit heinous acts.. It has been shown that they typically methodically plan out this act. They take the guns, ammo, and magazines with them according to what their sick minds are looking to accomplish. In the case of the VA Tech shooter, he had 10 round mags available, so he took 17 of them with him. 10 round mag limits will do nothing to impede these maniacs. On the flip-side, when a home owner uses a firearm to defend themselves, nearly all of the time they are caught by surprise. This means they will have extremely limited time to grab their defensive firearm, while operating under a very stressful situation in thinking about defense of themselves and their family. They will not have adequate time to plan for their actions, and almost always will only have whatever ammunition exists in the gun itself. In this case, having 15 rounds of ammunition would be all they have under our current "limited magazine" laws. A further reduction of this amount to 10 rounds would only serve to hinder the family to defend itself, as all they will have are those 10 rounds contained in their home defense gun. The criminals on the other hand will have at their disposal multiple magazines on their person, and even multiple guns and magazines, since they had all the time they wanted to plan for their criminal acts. This demonstrates that magazine limits on law-abiding citizens does nothing to stop maniacs, and does everything to hurt the ability for families to protect themselves in their own homes with firearms. I propose 1 gun, and 1 bullet, is too many in the hands of a criminal. Lets focus on legislation that keeps guns out of their hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJCK 5 Posted February 11, 2013 I would submit that in the analysis they refer to bureaucracy, but we are really dealing with a bureaupathology. There really is a difference, and the "system" in New Jersey is a classic example of a bureaupathology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zell959 40 Posted February 11, 2013 Sent e-mails to entire committee. Going to start with phone calls tommorrow morning. I can't really do calls from work as I'd like to, so I'll make the calls from my car when I arrive in the morning. Also going to write my local Assembly reps again. When I sent out my first wave of letters in January, they had written back voicing strong support of the 2A. It was nice to hear, but I'm gonna write them again and ask them to make good on their words and lend active support to our opposition of these bills. I know they aren't members of the committee the bills are in right now, but I have to assume that doesn't stop them from voicing opposition of the bills to the committee members. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikelets456 78 Posted February 11, 2013 Even though I live in PA, would it help if I write to these clowns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted February 11, 2013 Doing this as I sit in court Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millsan1 3 Posted February 11, 2013 Good morning and thank you for your time. I will be attending the committee meeting on February 13. I look forward to the opportunity to put forth my opinions on the bills being discussed during this session. I am hopeful that the committee members will take into account the positive, peaceful demonstration attended by over 1,000 constituents held on February 8th, 2013. I am also hopeful that the committee members will take into account the testimony of many more residents of the state at the three SAFE town hall meetings held last week. Crime and Safety are serious issues which require action and meaningful legislation. My hope is that any legislation put forward for vote will be geared towards reducing crime and increasing safety. I have taken the time to read the proposed legislation that will be up for public discussion during this meeting. The vast majority of these proposals target law abiding citizens, and will do little, if anything to reduce crime or increase public safety. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Steel 0 Posted February 11, 2013 Email sent to committee.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMSTICK 6 Posted February 11, 2013 Hey guys, I took the liberty of doing a little bit of editing on the above letter and made some corrections. I hope you don't mind. Here's what I'm sending to these folks: Assembly Persons: I am writing you as an extremely concerned New Jersey citizen. Simply put, the numerous bills being considered will do absolutely nothing to stop crime. In fact, they will turn ordinary law abiding citizens into criminals overnight. It is my opinion that these bills have been written based on emotional, "feel good" reasons rather than logic or real analysis and understanding of national statistics. Law abiding gun owners do NOT commit crimes or go on maniacal killing sprees. Criminals and the insane do! None of these bills address the real issue. Criminals need to be punished and the insane need to be institutionalized and/or treated properly. Criminals will also continue to obtain guns and ammunition illegaly and these new laws would never stop them from getting them. Banning guns, limiting magazine capacities, and enacting more restrictions on law abiding gun owners will not stop crime or save lives. These proposed (and not very well thought-out) initiatives will do just the opposite... They will put innocent people’s lives at risk! Criminals and those suffering from mental health disorders will not abide by these laws and will have a strong advantage over the rest us. Do you really want to be responsible for this? I am currently doing my best to let the public know the consequences of this poor legislation if it passes. Please feel free to contact me if you care to discuss these matters more in depth. I will be happy to work with you as a very concerned New Jersey citizen and law abiding gun owner who does not want to have his rights infringed upon or be made into a victim. Best regards, I borrowed and used. My spellcheck caught this before sending off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted February 11, 2013 Here is what I just sent in- Dear members of the assembly, I am writing to let you know that I am opposed to the proposed anti-gun violence bills. I hope that you realize that these bills will not have any impact on gun violence but will only make gun ownership more difficult for law abiding citizens like myself. An example is the fact that I am currently waiting over 50 days for a change of address on my FID, the paperwork was submitted on 12/18/12 and after several trips to the NJSP station is still not complete. I have heard from others applying for these permits that the actual lead time is 3 to 6 months as opposed to the original 30 day mandate, this is worrisome. I also do not think any real improvement in gun violence will occur until there are substantial improvements in the opportunities and job prospects afforded to young people in inner cities. I, along with many of my peers are concerned with the amount of effort that is being wasted on these proposed bills when time and effort should be directed towards more important issues such as economic development, education, job training and trying to entice business to move to New Jersey. Come next election we will be looking very closely at the time and resources that were spent on these anti-gun violence bills as opposed to making real progress toward improving the lives and opportunities for those in need. Can I ask why there has been no attempt to engage firearms manufacturing companies in upstate NY in dialog about moving to New Jersey and bringing with them several thousand good paying manufacturing jobs? And proposing covenants that would allow them to hire a minimum percentage of their employees locally? All while partnering with the state to provide training for those positions as well providing a continuous pipeline of trained individuals for those companies to hire? Please feel free to contact me if I can be of any assistance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whiteout 0 Posted February 11, 2013 Attached is the ANJRPC summary and analysis of the bills to be considered on Wed. Call, email, write! doesn't christie need to sign off on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73Midget 0 Posted February 11, 2013 Emails sent! doesn't christie need to sign off on this? I heard Christie say in and interview he supports NJ's existing gun laws. So if he already supports stripping law abiding citizens one their Constitutional Rights, what's to keep him from signing new laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted February 11, 2013 Yes Christie does need to sign this, but who is to say that he won't? Or that he vetoes this version and is then presented a second or third version as a "compromise"? And I also believe that a 2/3 vote can override a veto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites