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Christie has 45 days after any bills pass both the Assembly and Senate to veto them, sign them, or if he does nothing, they become law.

 

The NJ SAFE Task Force was established January 17 and is supposed to have its recommendations within 60 days. I think it's a good guess that he'll wait for his task force to report before he does anything.

 

He's vetoed gay marriage, minimum wage, online gambling etc. All would have been easy to sign. I couldn't find a total for the number of bills that Christie has vetoed, but a Google search for "Christie vetoes" came up with 9,180 results.

 

He doesn't seem to be signing an awful lot of bills.

 

http://www.app.com/a...on-168-year-low

 

New N.J. laws from last session at a 168-year low

 

Christie makes history with fewest signed

 

Jan 27, 2013 |

 

New Jersey laws in a year

 

Fewest

 

2012 80

2006 103

1847 109

1846 114

1850 123

2010 123

2008 131

1990 134

2002 134

1848 136

1849 136

 

 

Most

 

1888 837

1873 723

1871 625

1872 603

1983 579

1869 577

1981 570

1868 566

1985 543

1874 534

Source: New Jersey Legislative Manualsfactboxfade.png

 

TRENTON — Not in nearly 170 years, and perhaps far longer, have fewer laws been enacted in New Jersey than the 80 bills signed by Gov. Chris Christie in the last legislative session.

 

To some, that’s a badge of honor — a sign of Trenton being turned upside down, even the imprint of a conservative governor.

 

“That’s the best news I’ve heard about this administration. That’s awesome,” said Steve Lonegan, who challenged Christie for the nomination in 2009 and heads Americans for Prosperity’s chapter in New Jersey. “The last thing we need is more laws. What’s the old saying Benjamin Franklin said? ‘No one’s safe when the Legislature’s in session.’ If you believe in limited government, less government intrusion, that’s a great thing. We want less bills signed.”

 

 

Like him, love him or hate him -- Christie sure isn't a typical New Jersey Republican governor. FWIW.

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Best to try and stop this tripe before it gets to the Gov desk. Not only keep pounding the Assembly L& PS and all your own Assembly creatures, with calls,emails,faxes,letters--also pound the Senate, especially the leadership. Sweeney, Norcross, et. al. If the bills don't make it past the Senate, then there's nothing for Christie to do.

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Well, I think we better all hope that Christie will veto most of these bills. If we have to rely on the Democrats to actually listen to what we have to say and think that they will vote against these bills, we all need our heads examined. With the exception of a few Democrats, I think just about all of them will vote for these bills. They don't give a rats a** what you and I think.

 

Sad truth in this shithole state.

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I think Christie will go along with whatever his NJ SAFE Task Force comes up with --- so let's just hope it doesn't recommend 10 round magazines, prohibition of internet ammo sales and classifying a .50 rifle as a destructive device.

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I think Christie will go along with whatever his NJ SAFE Task Force comes up with --- so let's just hope it doesn't recommend 10 round magazines, prohibition of internet ammo sales and classifying a .50 rifle as a destructive device.

 

They are.

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This was my message, and I sent it to all members....stole it from the NRA website.

 

Subject: no more frivolous laws!

 

 

As your constituent, I strongly urge you to oppose any legislation to ban so-called "assault weapons" and "large" ammunition magazines.

 

A previous ban on these inanimate objects was in effect from 1994-2004 and had no discernible effect on violent crime. In fact, a study of the ban mandated by Congress found: "At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders."

 

Tens of millions of Americans choose to own semi-automatic firearms with ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds for the same reason as law enforcement officers: they are effective for self-defense. One never knows how many rounds he or she will need for self-defense or defense of others, or how many criminals may attack. Thus having a firearm that allows its lawful user to discharge multiple shots can often be the difference between life and death. In fact, a number of studies have shown that firearms are used for self-defense hundreds of thousands of times to 2.5 million times annually. This amounts to guns being used 3-5 times more often for self-defense than to commit a crime.

 

Rather than expanding previously failed legislation that won't curb violence, but will affect law-abiding gun owners, I urge you to support legislation to enhance school security and improve our nation’s ailing mental health system.

 

Thank you,

 

[my name]

 

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They are.

 

And he will accept those and some others while vetoing the rest....just the way for him to straddle the fence...

 

I dunno.

 

The NJ SAFE Task Force includes a couple of shrinks, a specialist in drug/alcohol rehab, an educator, a Marine and a former AG who was a NJ Supreme Court justice that the NJ legislature actually tried to impeach.

 

There might be some overlap, but I don't think their recommendations will have an awful lot of overlap with the things that the Assembly wants to do.

 

Based on his record so far, vetoing bills written by Democrats seems to be one of the high points of Christie's day.

 

This is kabuki, of course. But we still all need to play along.

 

 

"Early" (Feb/Mar) 2016 Presidential Primary Calendar (so far)

 

February

Tuesday, February 2:

Colorado caucuses1

Minnesota caucuses

Missouri

Utah

 

Tuesday, February 23:

Arizona

Michigan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

March

Tuesday, March 1:

Colorado caucuses1

Massachusetts

Oklahoma

Tennessee

Texas

Vermont

Virginia

 

Tuesday, March 8:

Alabama

Hawaii Republican caucuses

Mississippi

 

Tuesday, March 15:

Illinois

 

Saturday, March 19:

Louisiana

 

 

(California and New Jersey's 2016 primaries aren't until June so they are pretty much irrelevant to the process.)

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At this point I am fairly certain the 5 round mag bill won't make much progress. It's interesting that it isn't even scheduled for hearing on Wednesday. Senator Gordon, one of the sponsors of the 5 round bill, appeared at the same anti-gun rally as Senator Weinberg, a sponsor of the 10 round bill. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they coordinated this to make the 10 round bill look like the "compromise" position rather than the shafting that we all recognize it to be.

 

My hope is that the lack of a grandfather clause will give Christie the cover to veto it. "I'm ok in principal with a 10 round limit, which was the limit under the Federal AWB and is the law in many other states, but won't sign a bill that turns citizens into retroactive criminals" or something like that. Of course, I also think it is possible that the bill will be amended to include some sort of grandfather clause before it hits the floor, in which case I am almost certain it would pass and get signed into law. Just a guess.

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So, I have faxed and called all the Assemblymen and women. First off, Assemblyman Albano's admin/receptionist almost cut me off by quickly stating that he will be voting against all of the gun control bills. And he's a Democrat. Next, the person answering Assemblyman Cryan's phone must be getting tired/annoyed. He barely made a pretense of taking my name and information. I didn't correct him when he read my name spelling back to me completely wrong.

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The woman in Mainor's office didn't even ask for my name. She cut me off and asked me what I was calling to support or oppose and I told her and she said thanks and hung up. I am getting the impression that these people are swamped with calls, which is a good thing. Great news about Albano.

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Called again this morning, and this time was asked if I was for or against and goodbye! My fax has been set to resend every 8 hours, and it's had to redial each number no less than 10 times this morning! Keep it up all!

 

Sounds like they had to hire someone just to take those calls. Hopefully they are keeping track instead of just asking and hanging up.

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I'm afraid to say that most of these politicians have their minds made up and have an agenda to follow. I, like you, have voiced my objections to the bills before the Assembly but I have my doubts that I have changed anything. Keep bombarding them I say, at lease we feel better. We will not change anything if we don't speak up.

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I'm afraid to say that most of these politicians have their minds made up and have an agenda to follow. I, like you, have voiced my objections to the bills before the Assembly but I have my doubts that I have changed anything. Keep bombarding them I say, at lease we feel better. We will not change anything if we don't speak up.

 

I think that, with a lot of them, it isn't really about changing their minds. It's about forcing them to ask themselves "are these bills important enough to have the office phone, fax & email exploding for weeks to come?". I.E. Making it cost something for them to keep towing the line on the anti-gun offensive.

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Christie has 45 days after any bills pass both the Assembly and Senate to veto them, sign them, or if he does nothing, they become law.

 

 

I believe it's just the opposite. If he doesn't sign them, that's a "pocket veto." Seems like that might be something he would do with these, or so we hope.

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http://www.njleg.sta.../legprocess.asp

 

Law

A bill becomes law upon the Governor's signature or after 45 days if no action is taken. If the House of origin is in recess on the 45th day, the time is extended until it reconvenes. (Different rules apply to bills passed during the last 45 days of a two-year session.) If vetoed, a bill may become law if the Legislature overrides the veto by a 2/3 vote. A law takes effect on the day specified in its text or, if unspecified, the next July 4th.

 

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