A3659: Bans .50 cal weapons

[msokad 3]

The current form of the bill will only allow you to keep ownership of the firearm after you register it again and pay a $50 fee. You can only sell it out of state after the bill is signed and has to be sold out of state or given to the state after you pass.

[petros600 12]

I thought there wasn't any grand-fathering on the .50 caliper.

[msokad 3]

There was a new section added. It states you can keep the gun,but you have to register it and pay a $50 fee. If you don't register or make it inoperable, you have to sell it or take it out of state.

 

Please keep in mind that this is still a bill so anything can change.

[Parikh1234 0]

I just picked up my 50 cal yesterday. Laminating all the paperwork to prove I got it before the ban Lets hope this doesnt pass!

 

Here are some pictures:

 

http://imgur.com/a/W50as

[njpilot 671]

Nice. I'm jealous. Did you buy it new?

 

Bet it will be fun to shoot. Enjoy!

[Socom 19]

I just picked up my 50 cal yesterday. Laminating all the paperwork to prove I got it before the ban Lets hope this doesnt pass!

 

Here are some pictures:

 

http://imgur.com/a/W50as

Hiding the honey = no good lol

[monmouth 19]

I just picked up my 50 cal yesterday. Laminating all the paperwork to prove I got it before the ban Lets hope this doesnt pass!

 

Here are some pictures:

 

http://imgur.com/a/W50as

Congrats, when do we see a range report?

[Parikh1234 0]

Nice. I'm jealous. Did you buy it new?

 

Bet it will be fun to shoot. Enjoy!

Yup, brand new. 

 

Congrats, when do we see a range report?

Ill probably get to cherry ridge in the next 2-3 weeks

 

Hiding the honey = no good lol

lol her choice, not mine. 

[mipafox 438]

I heard this is on Christie's desk?

[siderman 1,137]

I heard this is on Christie's desk?

http://www.nj.com/po...un_control.html

 

 

this link from another thread here is pretty much up to date

[Bob2222 317]

http://www.nj.com/po...un_control.html

 

 

this link from another thread here is pretty much up to date

 

 

 

A3659: Bans the .50-caliber rifle — the most powerful weapon available to civilians

 

That may be true for New Jersey, but I'm pretty sure 20mm rifles are NFA legal for civilians with a $200 stamp in Pennsylvania and the rest of the 35 surviving American states. The reporter needs to be reminded that you can even see America (Pennsylvania) from the NJ State House.

 

(I've also read The .600 and .700 Nitro Express cartridges are considered sporting, since they were designed for game hunting in Africa, and they don't require the $200 stamp. Not that I will ever need to shoot a charging rhinoceros.)

 

I thought A3659 as going to be a bone thrown to the antis. But since Buono was way in the background when Obama visited Asbury Park, even the Democrats don't seem to think that she has much of a chance. Plus the Democrats in the NJ Assembly are fighting with the Democrats in the NJ Senate now. So Christie might not even need to sign this one.

[voyager9 3,434]

That may be true for New Jersey, but I'm pretty sure 20mm rifles are NFA legal for civilians with a $200 stamp in Pennsylvania and the rest of the 35 surviving American states. The reporter needs to be reminded that you can even see America (Pennsylvania) from the NJ State House.

 

(I've also read The .600 and .700 Nitro Express cartridges are considered sporting, since they were designed for game hunting in Africa, and they don't require the $200 stamp. Not that I will ever need to shoot a charging rhinoceros.)

 

I thought A3659 as going to be a bone thrown to the antis. But since Buono was way in the background when Obama visited Asbury Park, even the Democrats don't seem to think that she has much of a chance. Plus the Democrats in the NJ Assembly are fighting with the Democrats in the NJ Senate now. So Christie might not even need to sign this one.

Remember, in NJ: no sign == pass. Christie would have to veto it.

[Bob2222 317]

Remember, in NJ: no sign == pass. Christie would have to veto it.

 

Yes -- but what I mean is that he has enough karma banked less than 6 months from the election that he can "provisionally" veto this one (and no doubt there are unintended consequences or unconstitutional provisions in the law as written) with a good speech. ("If the Senate and Assembly change "X" ..."  which they won't change. He did it with gay marriage, minimum wage, etc.)

 

A3659 will not earn him anything with primary voters in Louisiana. It's toxic in about 35 states.

 

Buono and the rest of the antis think they can hit him over the head with this for November -- but the truth is that 80% of NJ voters don't care all that intensely, and of the remaining 20%, we are half, and of the other half, 98% are voting for Buono anyway.

 

I think Christie should veto most of the bills -- he took my advice about gastric banding, so who knows?

[Glockguy1120 0]

I'm lost in the gibberish. So .50 cal muzzleloaders and slug guns were made exempt or no?

[Bob2222 317]

I posted this over in the "Politics" forum earlier, so apologies...

 

The vote totals are now posted. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/bills0001.asp

 

A3659/S2178 passed by the Senate 23/16. They don't have the 27 votes to override a veto of that one, either.

 

Possibilities -- Christie signs the .50 BMG ban, throwing his own party under the bus, and letting the Democrats hit the 16 or 17 Republicans who voted "no" over the head with this in November. Or Christie vetoes/"conditionally vetoes" (change X-Y-Z -- which they won't) the bunch with a good speech asking why they didn't even read the report by his blue ribbon commission, since they did almost nothing that the commission recommended.

 

(This is New Jersey, not Washington. The Republicans voted the way they did because Christie wanted them to vote that way.)

 

Less than 6 months to the election -- Buono wouldn't have been seated in the background and needed to stand in line to shake Obama's hand in Asbury Park last Tuesday if anyone thought she had a snowball's chance on the beach in August. The Democrats in the NJ Assembly are fighting with the Democrats in the NJ Senate over 15 round magazines. Based on the vote totals, I don't think Christie's advisers see much potential danger from vetoing most of the bills.

 

I don't expect Christie to say or do anything Monday morning -- he doesn't have a single bill on his desk at this point. It's also to his and everyone's benefit to allow the memory of Sandy Hook to fade to the maximum extent before taking action. Patience.

[mipafox 438]

This is such bullcrap.

[ogfarmer 138]

Bill is being voted on today in full assembly staring at 1pm

 

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/live_audio.asp

[ogfarmer 138]

6/24/2013 Passed Assembly (Passed Both Houses) (41-33-3)

[Glockguy1120 0]

I know this question gets asked every thread, but what's the next step? Are we relying on christie at this point to veto this crap or are there more chances.

[msokad 3]

At this point, the bill has passed both houses and it goes to the governors desk. The big guy either vetos it,signs it or doesn't do anything with it for 45 days after it hits his desk,if he does that, it's the same as signing it.

 

There is a grandfather clause in it, so anyone with a .50 in their possession with get to keep it once they complete the correct paperwork.

 

The last part is the bill if signed into law will go into effect immediately.

[jm1827 284]

I hope he vetoes it, I really want a .50 at some point in my life!

[Glockguy1120 0]

I can't recall but were there provisions for sluggers and muzzleloaders?

[nitrospaz9 10]

I'll have to fill out extra paperwork for my 50?

[ogfarmer 138]

yes, you will have to register it or move it out of state.

[nitrospaz9 10]

It's a HG. It's already registered. Right?

[Socom 19]

I read somewhere that they are only banning .50 cals with 10-12000 ft lb. at the muzzle idk if sw 500 are around that its more based towards the 45 lb barrets that they think crimes will be committed with

[msokad 3]

As usual, the law is written to be as vague as possible. While it does mention the 10-12000 foot pounds, it also mentions rifled bore and .50 cal so the assumption is any hg or rifle that is not smooth bore.

[msokad 3]

As usual, the law is written to be as vague as possible. While it does mention the 10-12000 foot pounds, it also mentions rifled bore and .50 cal so the assumption is any hg or rifle that is not smooth bore.

[Parikh1234 0]

so does anyone know how or where to get the paperwork started to register my 50 cal or am I too early as this hasnt gone into effect yet. I dont want to waste any time to make sure all the correct paper work is in. thanks!

[msokad 3]

First, Gov has to sign the bill to make it a law. Once signed into law (praying it doesn't) the Superintendent of the State Police has 60 days to create the form that would be used as the registration form. You still have 1 year from law enactment to register.