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By oldguysrule649
Given the very challenging times we are experiencing especially here in NJ, I am taking the liberty of reposting something here that I had posted in the 1st Amendment section three years ago. The broader membership, including the many new forum members that have joined since that time, might benefit from reading it. It as relevant today, if not even more, than it was then. In the many recent threads on the new laws just passed, there is lots of discussion about what the government can or cannot due, might or might not due, or could do if they had the will, etc. I feel it is important to be reminded of history and what ACTUALLY HAPPENED as a point of fact. As has often been said, if we ignore history we are destined to repeat it. My post was as follows:
Recently finished reading “Gun Control in the Third Reich-Disarming the Jews and Enemies of the State” by Stephen P. Halbrook.
I strongly urge anyone who values our freedoms to read it. Despite the title, it actually covers the period from the birth of the Weimar Republic in 1918 thru the Nazi regime in 1938 and the “Night of Broken Glass”.
For me, what is most striking about this book are the parallels between what took place then, and the gun rights challenges we face in the present times.
To name a few examples taken directly from various sections of the book:
• Vague firearms laws that were harshly enforced
• Decree(s) requiring the surrender of all firearms and ammunition else punishment of X years in prison
• During the timeline covered by the book; possession of a firearm or ammunition was also punishable by being arrested, shot on the spot, or being sent to concentration camps.
• Entire populations being designated as “undesirable” or “unreliable” and banned from possession of firearms. This included not only the Jews but also anyone labeled, for example, as a gypsy or a communist.
• Forced Registration. Before Hitler came to power, the government assured that these records would be protected and remain private. Guess what. Subsequently the Nazi’s later took control of these records and used them to further confiscate and persecute gun owners.
• Mass confiscations
• Needing to convince the local authorities of your need for a firearm and obtain their approval (sound familiar?)
• Manufacture and importation of arms severely limited.
• Preventing sporting clubs from providing instruction or training to their members. Later, such clubs and associations were banned and/or taken over by the government.
• Massive police raids, house to house searches, and confiscation of “military” weapons from civilians.
• Need for a license to acquire a firearm or ammunition whether the transaction is commercial or private.
• Trade in firearms prohibited at annual fairs, shooting competitions,and other events.
• Government officials and police exempted from most of these onerous laws.
And so on.
As has often been said; “History Repeats Itself”. This is more than reason enough for us to remain ever vigilant to protect our 2nd Amendment Rights.
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By NJGF
I have linked to an excellent article that outlines the "gun control debate".
It should provide lots of good information that can be used when discussing gun control.
Understanding the gun debate, part 1
By Massad Ayoob
http://www.backwoodshome.com/understanding-the-gun-debate-part-1/
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By 9X19
http://newjersey.news12.com/news/orlando-shooting-sparks-new-debate-on-gun-control-and-ownership-1.11916595
Just voted no for more restrictions.
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By Midwest
Puerto Ricans can now carry firearms without a permit and the firearms registry has been eliminated. And there are no more licensing requirements to purchase. From what the article says, it looks just regular Federal Law takes precedence. This has all the makings of a landmark victory.
I posted this here because it is current gun law and perhaps it might have bearing (or influence) on New Jersey in some way in the future. The politicians in NJ can't keep all these outdated and draconian gun laws in place and keep denying the right to carry without it legally coming back and biting them in the ass sometime in the future (in my opinion). Congratulations to our friends in Puerto Rico.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/saf-lauds-puerto-rico-court-victory-for-gun-rights-300102214.html
"A surprising victory for gun rights in Puerto Rico has eliminated the firearms registry and licensing requirements to purchase and carry in the Commonwealth, the Second Amendment Foundation has confirmed.
As of now, according to Sandra Barreras with Ladies of the Second Amendment (LSA), the group that brought the lawsuit, "there is no regulation to purchase or carry (and) all purchases will be handled in accordance with federal firearms regulations." LSA is affiliated with SAF through the International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights (IAPCAR)."
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By Midwest
Rhode Island: Draconian Gun Control Legislation Proposed
http://libertycrier.com/lawmakers-rhode-island-unleash-long-list-anti-gun-bills/?utm_source=The+Liberty+Crier&utm_campaign=0a80e78178-The_Liberty_Crier_Daily_News_3_3_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_600843dec4-0a80e78178-285044409
A number of bills includes ending shall issue carry, assault weapons ban patterned after NY state's SAFE ACT, magazine limits and would affect .22 caliber rifles, 10% tax on ammunition with money possibly going to the Brady Bunch (no this isn't April 1st).
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These bills are nearly identical bills to those that stalled in the state Legislature last year, however, anti-gun lawmakers relentlessly continue to focus on law-abiding citizens rather than target criminals. As a result, cities like Providence continue to suffer under the scourge of crime.
No committee hearings have been scheduled, but these bills have been assigned to the Judiciary Committees in their respective chambers.........."
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