Gun Guy in NJ 10 Posted April 25, 2013 RTSP is $50 for members and $75 for non-members. Also Ray's Tactical offered a discount for NJ2AS members. IIRC is was like $5 off Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted April 25, 2013 It's also very silly to base your FFL simply off of price. These dealers are offering you a service, so you should consider the level of service you receive when making your decision. That's crazy no matter how good of service does not mean we should pay 75+ dollars; Rick at OMG treats you like gold and he's 35 cash I'm just saying you can take it with a grain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted April 25, 2013 That's crazy no matter how good of service does not mean we should pay 75+ dollars; Rick at OMG treats you like gold and he's 35 cash I'm just saying you can take it with a grain I never endorsed anyone in this thread specifically, and personally, I'm happy to pay more for better service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,296 Posted April 25, 2013 It's also very silly to base your FFL simply off of price. These dealers are offering you a service, so you should consider the level of service you receive when making your decision. True, but based on the prices a couple of those dealers are charging, the services should include a car wash and oil change. Or maybe a second transfer at no charge. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted May 1, 2013 Joe's Gun Shop- Transfer Fee- $25, NICS- $16, Total $41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My1stGlock 144 Posted May 8, 2013 Nice list. I've worked with Ira at Legend Firearms and Steve at Monmouth Arms....both great. I agree. Was trying to work with Ira but was still waiting on his paperwork so he referred me to Steve at Monmouth Arms. Just waiting on my NICS now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gun Guy in NJ 10 Posted May 9, 2013 bullseye tactical phone - 732-218-8415Caso's phone - 201-435-5099Legend Firearms phone 908-216-2915Mastodon Ammo & Cammo phone 973-764-9550OMG guns phone 551-221-2276RAYS TACTICAL Phone 201-686-0848Thunder Mt PHONE: 973-962-6377SIDE BY SIDE FIREARMSPhone Number: (973) 627-2848DENVILLETransfer Fee: 70.00G & S HUNTERSPhone Number: (973) 345-4100PATERSONTransfer Fee: 65.00BERGEN SPORTING GOODSPhone Number: (201) 941-2666RIDGEFIELDTransfer Fee: 50.00THE POSTMARKPhone Number: 973-267-6655MORRISTOWNTransfer Fee: 50.00MELTZER & SONSPhone 973-478-7647GARFIELDFee: 65 includes NICSTRI STATE FIREARMS EXCHANGEPhone (973) 737-4016VERNON Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikos 31 Posted May 9, 2013 INFO Thanks for the info -- cheat sheet has been updated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gun Guy in NJ 10 Posted May 10, 2013 Ace Marksman phone 856-935-4599Bob Kislin's phone 732-929-9300Constitution Arms phone 973-378-8011Gerards Guns phone 856-701-3700Jetagent, LLC phone 908-938-6510Just Sports phone 609-465-6171Leroy Stout phone 609-586-5708NJ Firearms Guild phone 732-382-4066Tips Hardware phone 609-296-3192YOJ Sports phone 973-786-7382 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikos 31 Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Thanks, will update Monday Edit: Updated Edited May 11, 2013 by Nikos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danboz38 0 Posted May 21, 2013 Precision Firearms Coatings & Sales in Edison charges $35 total for a transfer coatyourgun.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vzguy 13 Posted June 2, 2013 Long Gun Fee: $45.00 Credit Card $50.00 Hand Gun Fee: $45.00 Credit Card $50.00 NICS Fee: $45.00 Its included in the $45.00 Cash / $50.00 Credit Card Other Fee: $15.00 25.00 Credit Card 2nd Gun same transaction Update for Lincoln Park Hardware, (True Value Hardware) Prices went up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted June 2, 2013 Long Gun Fee: $45.00 Credit Card $50.00 Hand Gun Fee: $45.00 Credit Card $50.00 NICS Fee: $45.00 Its included in the $45.00 Cash / $50.00 Credit Card Other Fee: $15.00 25.00 Credit Card 2nd Gun same transaction Update for Lincoln Park Hardware, (True Value Hardware) Prices went up Thanks for the heads up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted June 2, 2013 Long Gun Fee: $45.00 Credit Card $50.00 Hand Gun Fee: $45.00 Credit Card $50.00 NICS Fee: $45.00 Its included in the $45.00 Cash / $50.00 Credit Card Other Fee: $15.00 25.00 Credit Card 2nd Gun same transaction Update for Lincoln Park Hardware, (True Value Hardware) Prices went up So they raised prices by$5? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vzguy 13 Posted June 3, 2013 So they raised prices by$5? Yep, and I never wondered why they have a $5 surcharge for using a CC. I mean they are also a hardware store which takes CC's for store merch.... Weird... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinjin 1 Posted June 7, 2013 Lou's in Raritan just today quoted me $96.30 for a handgun... that's $90 + tax... so I would assume it is $75 transfer + $15 NICS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melgamatic 66 Posted June 7, 2013 It's also very silly to base your FFL simply off of price. These dealers are offering you a service, so you should consider the level of service you receive when making your decision. Perhaps, but the elements of FFL transfer fee service are pretty simple. 1) Not lose the gun. 2) Be open during arranged hours. 3) Don;'t mess up the same paperwork they've filled in 10,000 times before. That's a low barrier. Above that, it's price all the way. (Also, I know several FFL's have failed those simple requirements). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted June 7, 2013 It's also very silly to base your FFL simply off of price. These dealers are offering you a service, so you should consider the level of service you receive when making your decision. The dealers should also take into account whether or not you are a valued and repeat customer when charging you any of the higher than average fees. I would seem that some set their prices so as not to get involved with any online deals. tOh, and with all of the business as of late, why are important customers being gouged on ammo pricing? Are dealers being gouged and passing it along, or are they taking advantage? ....It's a two-way street. One local vendor is reasonable if you buy used and transfer or if you buy something that the dealer cannot readily get and have a transfer done there, but charges you a lot more if it is something that they could stock. And the laws in NJ are in many ways forcing you to be at the mercy of our fine firearms dealers. That being said, if you have to pay $10-15 more for a large ticket item from a dealer than with an online transaction, then loyalty, and the wish to support local should be considered. Any more than that or lack of stock etc. and no. Additionally, keep in mind that there most likely isn't one gun owner in NJ that didn't experience an attitude at some point by the employees of a NJ gun store. That doesn't appear to be a great level of service in some cases. I have yet to find a dealer that I am willing to show express loyalty to, especially with my pocket book. Its more self-serving in that I personally don't want the store to go out of business and present ME less options. And, why buy at the rather high, but typically less than local dealer prices of Dick's when Dick's has shown its true colors toward the firearms owners of this nation. Support your local gougers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted June 15, 2013 True, but based on the prices a couple of those dealers are charging, the services should include a car wash and oil change. Or maybe a second transfer at no charge. For what the Guild charges I'd be wanting a happy ending by some good looking split tail.. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianN 0 Posted June 28, 2013 I was just talking to my friend and he said that Carter Drugs in Matawan charged him 25 for transfer + 15 for nics + tax on the gun he bought. Is this illegal or just immoral? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 28, 2013 if he purchased the gun from that dealer i would not be standard practice to charge a transfer fee, only nics fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 28, 2013 Perhaps, but the elements of FFL transfer fee service are pretty simple. 1) Not lose the gun. 2) Be open during arranged hours. 3) Don;'t mess up the same paperwork they've filled in 10,000 times before. That's a low barrier. Above that, it's price all the way. (Also, I know several FFL's have failed those simple requirements). You did miss a couple of expenses FFL's have. 1 Liability and theft insurance (I'm sure in not the only person with coverage) 2. Credit Card Monthly account Fee's (just to have the account) 3. Phone lines 4. Initial expense for starting up , Construction, App Fee's etc etc 5. Misc expenses (ie accounting) 6. Time, When i do a transfer for a new gun owner they always ask questions about the firearm they purchased elsewhere, A 15 minute transfer can easily become a 1 hour transfer and Q&A session. Im more then happy to do it but it does come at a cost to us in time. You will have to look hard to find a customer i rushed out the door due to questions. So that 25 transfer fee is in no way profit I'm not justifying those FFL's that charge higher then normal rates but i am justifying the 40.00 including NICS that most of us charge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted June 28, 2013 I was just talking to my friend and he said that Carter Drugs in Matawan charged him 25 for transfer + 15 for nics + tax on the gun he bought. Is this illegal or just immoral? I don't see anything illegal or immoral in that price. I'm assuming that your friend transferred a gun through the dealer. I think the price is reasonable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted June 28, 2013 You did miss a couple of expenses FFL's have. $250/mo. 1 Liability and theft insurance (I'm sure in not the only person with coverage) 3% per item 2. Credit Card Monthly account Fee's (just to have the account) $50 per month 3. Phone lines $10,000 4. Initial expense for starting up , Construction, App Fee's etc etc $1,000 5. Misc expenses (ie accounting) $40/hr. 6. Time, When i do a transfer for a new gun owner they always ask questions about the firearm they purchased elsewhere, A 15 minute transfer can easily become a 1 hour transfer and Q&A session. Im more then happy to do it but it does come at a cost to us in time. You will have to look hard to find a customer i rushed out the door due to questions. Should be $50 per So that 25 transfer fee is in no way profit I'm not justifying those FFL's that charge higher then normal rates but i am justifying the 40.00 including NICS that most of us charge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DbleTrouble 8 Posted June 28, 2013 I've been using Oakridge. Great little shop Oakridge Gun Service Inc.Allentown, NJ 08501Phone: 609-259-7620Hours: 10:00 am - 2:00 pm Mon - Fri; Sat/Sun by appoint.Long Gun Fee: $15.00 +NICS +sales taxHand Gun Fee: $15.00 +NICS +sales tax+ certified mail fee for permit returns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 28, 2013 I don't see anything illegal or immoral in that price. I'm assuming that your friend transferred a gun through the dealer. I think the price is reasonable. i think somethings wrong here.. if he purchased elsewhere he would not pay tax on the gun. if he purchased from the dealer he would not pay the 25 transfer LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 28, 2013 You did miss a couple of expenses FFL's have. $250/mo. 1 Liability and theft insurance (I'm sure in not the only person with coverage) 3% per item 2. Credit Card Monthly account Fee's (just to have the account) $50 per month 3. Phone lines $10,000 4. Initial expense for starting up , Construction, App Fee's etc etc $1,000 5. Misc expenses (ie accounting) $40/hr. 6. Time, When i do a transfer for a new gun owner they always ask questions about the firearm they purchased elsewhere, A 15 minute transfer can easily become a 1 hour transfer and Q&A session. Im more then happy to do it but it does come at a cost to us in time. You will have to look hard to find a customer i rushed out the door due to questions. Should be $50 per So that 25 transfer fee is in no way profit I'm not justifying those FFL's that charge higher then normal rates but i am justifying the 40.00 including NICS that most of us charge. there ya go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted June 28, 2013 i think somethings wrong here.. if he purchased elsewhere he would not pay tax on the gun. if he purchased from the dealer he would not pay the 25 transfer LOL I was thinking tax on the nics. If the charges are going back through the phone lines, there should be tax ontbd nics since the dealer pays tax on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianN 0 Posted June 28, 2013 i think somethings wrong here.. if he purchased elsewhere he would not pay tax on the gun. if he purchased from the dealer he would not pay the 25 transfer LOL He payed tax on the gun. The shop owner asked him how much he payed for the gun online and then charged him "sales tax" on that price. This was on top on the $25 transfer fee and $15 for nics. I have a strong feeling that the neither the IRS nor the NJ Division of Taxation receives any of these "taxes". This is where my question of legality comes in. Representing a fee as a mandatory government tax to get people to pay more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikos 31 Posted June 28, 2013 Interesting scenario. As far as I know, a transfer service is not a taxable item, just the NICS. The actual purchase of the item (gun) was with another company and any applicable taxes would have been collected by them. The FFL was paid for a transfer service (not a sale) and I don't know the legality of charging taxes for an item that he never actually sold to you although, the item is legally yours after the transfer is completed. Is it illegal? Not sure. Is it immoral? Hell yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites