mattio41 0 Posted May 23, 2013 The New Jersey Second Amendment Society has been continually looking into the excessive delay in processing "instant" NICS background checks here in NJ. We have made attempts to contact the NJSP Firearms Unit head, and the Attorney General's office. We have left several messages, and have not had our calls returned. NJ2AS is asking all firearm owners, to print this flyer, and Call, Fax, and Mail a copy to the three top officers of New Jersey. A PDF form is attached below. fix the nics_FINAL.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted May 23, 2013 AG office- you have same # for fax & phone.- faxed but got their phone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 23, 2013 whoooopsssss. Didn't catch that. can you please forward to me the proper fax number... (Apparently my proof readers missed it to) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted May 23, 2013 whoooopsssss. Didn't catch that. can you please forward to me the proper fax number... (Apparently my proof readers missed it to) dont know the fax # offhand... CC fax went thru. supt. 3 fails attemps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 23, 2013 AG office- you have same # for fax & phone.- faxed but got their phone FIXED !!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted May 23, 2013 I will fax this for the wife and I tomorrow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 23, 2013 Sending right now! Let's flood those SOB's. My first two went through but the one to Fuentes keeps dying ***OK, took six tries but the last one finally went through. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLF 1 Posted May 23, 2013 The first instance of the AG's name is misspelled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonfoxx 4 Posted May 23, 2013 Why does everyone have to be so critical of misspellings, wrong information and the like... this is standard operating procedure for NJ2AS postings. My wallet laughs at me everytime I see this continued stupidity, and it really hurts when I feel the need to jab that NJ2AS lapel pin into my eye when I see these posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevD 0 Posted May 23, 2013 I wish i had an NJ2AS lapel pin :.( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted May 24, 2013 Does a fax with so much color even print legible on the receiving end? Was it tested? Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevD 0 Posted May 24, 2013 Does a fax with so much color even print legible on the receiving end? Was it tested?Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2 Good point we need to iron out these details Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted May 24, 2013 Good point we need to iron out these details Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLF 1 Posted May 24, 2013 Every time someone hatches a poorly conceived plan, such as this, it makes us all look very bad. It only furthers the widely held notion in Trenton that we're all just idiots with guns. Test your plans to see if they're viable before putting them into motion. Edit: I decided that my original response was a bit harsh, sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeg1970 0 Posted May 24, 2013 Honey vs. Vinegar.... Might be more effective if it were less demanding. Understand we are all angry of the delays, however outright demands only puts the recipient in a defensive posture with and f.u. attitude. How about something like the following: As a resident of the State of New Jeresy, I am looking to each of you to investigate the current delays in the NICS approval process. I understand the increase in demand for verification, however the current delays are expanding each day without resolution in sight. As a resident and voter of New Jersey, I am requesting appropriate measures be put in place to remediate the current cause of delays. I look forward to your support and action taken to help resolve the current situation. just my two cents..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted May 24, 2013 I spoke with one of sweenys reps today. I called a week or so ago with a few questions one of them was about the cool down period. Did it start at the date you call in the nice or the day it's approved. Here is what I was told Right now there is a delay with the background checks. With the new id it really will be instant. So you will be instantly approved. Then starts the wait. So in fact you will actually get the gun faster then you are now. How I interpreted it. We are intentionally slowing down background checks so we can slip in a 7 day wait and make it seem like we are doing you a favor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 24, 2013 Why does everyone have to be so critical of misspellings, wrong information and the like... this is standard operating procedure for NJ2AS postings. My wallet laughs at me everytime I see this continued stupidity, and it really hurts when I feel the need to jab that NJ2AS lapel pin into my eye when I see these posts. Please feel free to join one of the committee's and get involved. We need all the help in this fight, and right now, it is being left in to few hands to do everything. Does a fax with so much color even print legible on the receiving end? Was it tested? Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk 2 Yes, It was. As just an amateur with graphics, I have learned to make the NJ2AS graphics both Black & White printer friendly, and able to be faxed. Every time someone hatches a poorly conceived plan, such as this, it makes us all look very bad. It only furthers the widely held notion in Trenton that we're all just idiots with guns. Test your plans to see if they're viable before putting them into motion. Edit: I decided that my original response was a bit harsh, sorry. Didn't see your first posting, so I will take this one for what it is. As a reminder, NJ2AS is all volunteer, we do this on our time to further our cause as NJ Gun Owners. We do it openly and willingly taking time from our work and our families to do so. Please feel free to join one of the committee's to help out and offer your assistance. Just for the record, here is the flyer, printed in color and black and white, and both faxed for testing purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 24, 2013 PS, FLYER Fixed for AG Name correction... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cixelsid 1 Posted May 24, 2013 Whoever wants to send a free fax via internet there is a good service I use at faxzero.com . You can send a PDF or Doc file to any fax machine through the internet. Max. 5 Free faxes per day. P.S. increased demand is NOT the cause of the delays. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted May 24, 2013 Couldn't get any to go through. The only one that connected was Christie then got an error in transmission. The AG never got picked up by a fax. Sounded like a recording. SP just rang... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 24, 2013 All numbers were tested before printing. Called and had verified numbers. Dont forget, you can mail them also.... Which is part of the intention. Call/Fax/Mail... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevD 0 Posted May 24, 2013 For the record i greatly appreciate all the NJ2AS volunteers do for our rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted May 24, 2013 For the record i greatly appreciate all the NJ2AS volunteers do for our rights. ^THAT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,811 Posted May 24, 2013 ...P.S. increased demand is NOT the cause of the delays. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. What is the cause of the delays, then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,811 Posted May 24, 2013 Can I suggest adding two sentences which add context?: - "Recent NJSP NICS response times for firearms purchases, which used to be measured in minutes, are now being measured in weeks. In some cases this delay is causing pistol purchase permits to expire before the NICS response is received which effectively denies a prospective buyer, who has already passed a background check in order to receive the permit, of the ability to purchase a firearm at all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJ Shooter 10 Posted May 24, 2013 Can you please re post the UPDATED .pdf.. then one I grabbed from top of post still has wrong numbers,, Need correct fax number please. And TY to the people who volunteer their time for NJ2AS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 24, 2013 Can you please re post the UPDATED .pdf.. then one I grabbed from top of post still has wrong numbers,, Need correct fax number please. And TY to the people who volunteer their time for NJ2AS. I hate when I grab the wrong file. Should be fixed now.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted May 24, 2013 I hate when I grab the wrong file. Should be fixed now.. Nope. Fixed the AG's name - reverted to the same phone number for AG's phone and fax. Try again. Feel free to PM it to me if you want anything ANYTHING proofread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted May 24, 2013 Nope. Fixed the AG's name - reverted to the same phone number for AG's phone and fax. Try again. Feel free to PM it to me if you want anything ANYTHING proofread. Your Hired for Proof-reading. Try now. (I hate this thing) PS: all 3 of my faxes have gone through... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted May 24, 2013 pdf is correct image in your post is not correct Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites